<snip /> Just to be clear: my main issue was with maintaining the auto-exclusion policy in the longer term. I do not question the past decisions, nor did I intend to point fingers (even if only implicitly). If I enervated anyone by bringing this up again, my apologies. The more general context is avoiding what Glenn referred to as 'stagnation'.
I was just concerned about the most current action, because I can see where Glenn and Vincent are coming from. I noticed the FB target had been added, and was sincerely interested in using it, but if this is how its use will be promoted, that interest might very well fade quite soon... I do not see FB as a magic wand myself, as there are obviously a lot of common and less common, in-your-face mistakes, anti-patterns or other types of ugliness that do not raise any flag whatsoever, not even a warning, but do deserve attention nevertheless. Things that require a human eye and brain to detect them. I see it more as a learning experience, hoping that in time, one's code style will adapt and those dubious patterns are avoided to begin with, hence reducing the 'additional effort' required to the time necessary to run the build target and check whether the result is still zero... It might just make you an even better coder in the long term. Or, maybe you think that is just not possible... ;-) Speaking in a more general context, no matter how many layers of testing and automated checks are added, it is always possible to produce the proverbial substandard spaghetti. No guarantees there, unfortunately. It *will* be reasonably guarded against future regressions and be virtually free of functional bugs, though... and have a fairly consistent style, too! :-> About the whole committership debate: I feel like I should remind people that some --including myself-- got voted in without having submitted a single line of code. It's all about contributions, in whatever form. There have also been people that donated very significant patches, but never stayed long enough to be considered. Come to think of it, I almost cannot remember when the previous committer got voted in. Was that Pascal? Quite some time ago, and I am seeing patches in Bugzilla that reveal a few potentials. Just a suggestion. Contact me off-list if you do not see them immediately. No name-dropping here. ;-) They might be tempted to spend their time elsewhere if their efforts here are not 'rewarded' in some way other than just: 'Thanks for the patch!' Regards, Andreas ---