a·vant-garde

noun
1.
new and unusual or experimental ideas, esp. in the arts, or the people 
introducing them.




adjective
1.favoring or introducing experimental or unusual ideas.





So avant garde science would include all the unsuccessful experiments 
regardless of  significance, validity, or connection to any historical 
development.
Fortunately science never succumbed to the "tradition of the new" which 
undermined sanity in the arts. Insanity seems to rule and reference to or use 
of tradition is branded as (been there done that - anti avant garde) plagiarism.
I prefer the idea of art, like science, being built on a history of useful 
discoveries for expression, not expression for its own sake at the expense of 
insightful universality, technique, and craft.

-not making any friends, 
Myron Ort    




On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Stashu Kybartas wrote:

> Perhaps we should just admit that the Avant-Garde ended where Post-Modernism 
> and identity politics picked up. (the Post 70s chapters in Sitney 
> notwithstanding). The take was driven into the heart of the Avant-Garde at 
> the turn of this century with the web.
> 
> There is no avant-garde now.  The internet insures that NOTHING will stay 
> avant - EVER.  
> 
> This is not nescessarily a bad thing.  Time to move on to the great future 
> where everything is available to everyone all the time - no exclusive clubs 
> anymore.
> 
> Keep the faith...
> 
> 
> 
> Stashu Kybartas
> Lecturer IV
> University of Michigan
> Department of Screen Arts and Cultures
> 6330 North Quad
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> 
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> 
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Albert Alcoz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Here's another one:
>> Indiscretions: Avant-Garde Film, Video, and Feminism
>> by Patricia Melllencap (Indiana University Press)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> De: "William Wees, Dr." <[email protected]>
>> Para: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> 
>> Enviado: Jueves 7 de noviembre de 2013 2:26
>> Asunto: Re: [Frameworks] seminal writing on American a/g film after 76
>> 
>> I would suggest chapters 13 and 14 of Visionary Film: The American 
>> Avant-Garde, 3rd edition, by P. Adams Sitney, Oxford University Press, 2002; 
>> A Line of Sight: American Avant-Garde Film Since 1965, by Paul Arthur, 
>> University of Minnesota Press, 2005; and in all humility, a couple of essays 
>> by myself: ”The Changing of the Garde(s)” in Public, No. 25, 2002, and “No 
>> More Giants” in Women and Experimental Filmmaking, eds. Jean Petrolle and 
>> Virginia Wright Wexman, University of Illinois Press, 2005.
>>  
>> --Bill Wees
>>  
>>  
>> From: FrameWorks [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Ara Osterweil
>> Sent: November 5, 2013 10:19 AM
>> To: frameworks
>> Subject: [Frameworks] seminal writing on American a/g film after 76
>>  
>> Hello all,
>> A friend is compiling a bibliography and needs to know the 4-5 most 
>> important scholarly books or articles on American a/g film made after 1976. 
>> My scholarship on the a/g is mostly in the 60s and 70s and while I know much 
>> of the work that comes after, I wanted to confirm my suspicions.
>> Suggestions welcome and appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Ara
>> 
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