''I was warned. I've heard from many sources, i.e. young experimental
filmmakers, that this listserv was a space of negativity, where people were
shamed and attacked over the most innocuous things.''




2015-09-25 3:09 GMT-04:00 Lara Hannawi <[email protected]>:

> To Sasha: thanks for sharing your opinion
> To Jona, even though already hastily unsubscribed: this list is
> democratic: people from the real world (:where negativity exists, yes)
> express their opinion too. it's not the disney world listserve.
>
> now to plug 'art from language': my new handmade book on the murder of
> walter scott by a cop, told through the voices of 50 nytimes reader
> comments. ha.
> http://ravenmeetsdove.com/Who-Will-Police-the-Police
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 00:27:55 -0600
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] NEW DIRECTOR NEEDED for Millennium Film Workshop
>
> Wow. I've been on this listserv for less than two hours, and I'm already
> receiving emails comprised of snarky infighting and character assassination.
>
> Honestly, it's my fault. I was warned. I've heard from many sources, i.e.
> young experimental filmmakers, that this listserv was a space of
> negativity, where people were shamed and attacked over the most innocuous
> things.
>
> Still, as a new filmmaker who draws inspiration from the traditions of
> experimental and independent film, I figured I'd sign up. I figured it
> couldn't be that bad, that I could surely draw inspiration from artists
> with a lifetime of experience, and that it could enrich my practice and
> inspire me
>
> But, well, no. They were right, I was wrong.
>
> And I'm not trying to clog my inbox with old grudges and hostility.
>
> The writer Ben Marcus said: "Anyone who believes that you can make art
> from language is part of a small, nearly-vanishing community, and we should
> all form a wedge and march on the enemy."
>
> I think the basic sentiment applies to experimental film as well.
>
> You should all maybe give this some thought.
>
> Best,
>
> [unsubscribed]
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Sasha Janerus <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Ah! Millennium Film Workshop! A vibrant arts organization! Though a while
> back Kent Jones referred to it on a podcast as--and I quote--"a place that
> no longer exists." It's like Brigadoon or something!
>
> As far as I know, MFW board elections are a couple years overdue. The
> present board was elected as part of an effort to restore democratic member
> control of MFW, which has always been mandated by the bylaws. So I'm not
> sure they have the legal authority to hire anybody. It is they who need to
> be replaced.
>
> As a side note: I've heard Peter Kingsbury got the thirty grand he was
> after for doing fuck all. True? Regardless, applicants are advised that
> there is doubtless very little left to grift. And, if I know Lili, she'll
> want her cut of whatever's left in the cushions.
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Lili White <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello experimental Film World! Millennium Film Workshop
> http://millenniumfilm.org/
> is looking for a NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR to take us into our 50th Year.
> PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD AROUND!
> We welcome queries from any competent person who would be responsible for
> the successful leadership and management of the organization according to
> its incorporating purpose, and the strategic direction set by its Board of
> Directors and Members. This involves the planning and management of
> MILLENNIUM's organizational, programming services, its finances, human
> resources, and community relations. We ask that the candidate have a degree
> in a related field and prefer some management experience in an arts, non
> profit, or educational organization and that they have a knowledge and
> understanding of Experimental cinema history and practice.
>  MFW statement of purpose (1967) - "To offer the non-commercial film
> artist -of whatever experience, or proven degree of proficiency, and
> without interference in either film-subject or style -the use without cost,
> or at minimal cost, of the tools of filmmaking, instruction in filmmaking,
> and a means of contacting others of like creative interest."
>
> PLEASE CONTACT the  MFW BOARD's secretary, Lili White, for further
> information: [email protected]
>
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