i'm a freelance sys/net admin/architect who works with bsd (free/open)
in France (Paris/Bordeaux).
i'm reading your columns very regularly. Your writing are easy to
understand and that's a good point !

I'm (for now) just following mailing lists (security, hackers, stable,
current) and i want to help. I'm making progress slowly but surely.
Soon i will be quite mature with bsd, and i will be able to report bugs,
and later debug (at this time i'm playing with cvs and making worlds).

if you write some docs, i will read them, and i will have time to report
some bugs if you tell me how to do it right. 

I'm sticking with stable now (compiling once a day), but it's been times
since i wanted to help the -current project; but i wouldn't have been
efficient so i didn't do it.

from my point of view, it is NOT too early. Go ahead !!! I think i'll be
ready when your doc are finished. I understand that's it is only my point
of view (and i can be considered as zero helper / poor joe user), but hey,
it's one more potential tester :-)

Even if i can't support what you (developpers) do the way you would like, i
really appreciate the work you do on FreeBSD, and i try to show it by
using and installing FreeBSD. Thanks !


(saturday i will buy a serial cable to start playing with ;-) )

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote:
> I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more
> -current testers.
> We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very
> sophisticated users who can debug problems on their own and submit
> patches to fix all their issues.  I would guess that we all also agree
> that that's not going to happen.
> It seems that the best we can hope for is to educate some of the
> braver users who are ready to take the next step and are willing to
> donate some time to us.
> I'm considering doing a series of articles on testing FreeBSD-current,
> including: setting up for kernel dumps, what to type at the debugger
> prompt after a crash, filing a decent bug report, what to expect from
> -current, and so on.  I would also make it clear when to not bother
> filing a bug report (i.e., "You crashed, but had no WITNESS?  Sorry,
> enable WITNESS & try again."). This would be (I suspect) three
> articles, running about a month and a half.
> The last time I checked, I get 12-15 thousand readers for each
> article.  One half of one percent uptake would (hopefully) be quite a
> few bug reports.
> My question to the community is: is it too early to do this?  If I
> start now, the articles would probably appear April-May.
> Thanks,
> Michael
> -- 
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