That's EXACTLY how I see it !! Separate the business logic to the back
end...Leave for Java. Meanwhile kick-ass in the front end with CF and FB+XFB
!! (Hardly the correct way to phrase it when presenting the idea but I'm
working on it)
I've also been looking at incorporating XSL stylesheets into my FB
designs...There's some great custom tags for the Java XSL transformers out
there. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Keatinge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:45 PM
To: Fusebox
Subject: Re: JSP vs CF
I can understand your feelings about JSP and CF Stacy. Here is my story for
what its worth. I am a programmer with quite a bit of CF experience although
much of my other work has been in 'real' languages like C, VB (some would
argue the definition of 'real' but ...) and others. I work with a page
designer and last year we developed an ecommerce / storefront / catalog site
in non-FB CF. I've always felt somewhat frustrated with CF because its not a
strongly typed 'real' language.
Our application needs lots of new features and is ready for a version 2
rewrite. This time I really want to get business logic and content separated
as much as possible. In the last few months I've made a big effort to learn
Java because I somehow convinced myself that JSP / Servlets / JavaBeans were
the way to go. I spent a lot of time playing with Struts
(http://jakarta.apache.org/struts)and then Webwork
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/webwork). Both of these are good Model View
Controller frameworks for JSP being developed by some very smart people. I
suggest that your Java people should be at least be looking at these if you
can't convince them to go to CF. I found both had quite a steep learning
curve and neither is quite released to version 1 yet. I too got excited when
I found CachedRowSet and wrote a bean to use it but gave up over issues of
jdbc drivers of varying quality and features.
I then discovered Fusebox. With CF 5 ready to go it was just too good to
move past. I couldn't see any compelling reason to switch to JSP and we are
about to start redeveloping our app using XFB.
I still like Java but I am not convinced about the JSP idea. My frustration
with CF being 'just' a scripting language is still there to some extent so I
am looking at doing some of my back end stuff in Java using either Java CFX
tags or CFOBJECT when I want the features of a 'real' language. I really
feel like I have the best of both worlds now.
Cheers all
Ross
(A New Zealander in the USA. Been lurking here for a while.)
--- Stacy Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> *sigh*
>
> Some peeps just don't get it. I'm 110% confident anything developed in
> JSP can be replicated in CF and vice-versa (given the correct skillset
> on the
> developer). but MY GOD our place is OBSESSED with everything going
> Java on
> the front end...Projects are taking 10 times as long !!!
[snip]
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