Could you point me in the direction of some of those XSL custom tags? The
only ones I've found use MSXML, and I'd sure like to get my hands on one for
Java. If that's too OT, you can reply to me off list.
Thanks!
Kory
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stacy Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:51 PM
Subject: RE: JSP vs CF
> That's EXACTLY how I see it !! Separate the business logic to the back
> end...Leave for Java. Meanwhile kick-ass in the front end with CF and
FB+XFB
> !! (Hardly the correct way to phrase it when presenting the idea but I'm
> working on it)
>
> I've also been looking at incorporating XSL stylesheets into my FB
> designs...There's some great custom tags for the Java XSL transformers out
> there. :)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Keatinge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:45 PM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: Re: JSP vs CF
>
>
> I can understand your feelings about JSP and CF Stacy. Here is my story
for
> what its worth. I am a programmer with quite a bit of CF experience
although
> much of my other work has been in 'real' languages like C, VB (some would
> argue the definition of 'real' but ...) and others. I work with a page
> designer and last year we developed an ecommerce / storefront / catalog
site
> in non-FB CF. I've always felt somewhat frustrated with CF because its not
a
> strongly typed 'real' language.
>
> Our application needs lots of new features and is ready for a version 2
> rewrite. This time I really want to get business logic and content
separated
> as much as possible. In the last few months I've made a big effort to
learn
> Java because I somehow convinced myself that JSP / Servlets / JavaBeans
were
> the way to go. I spent a lot of time playing with Struts
> (http://jakarta.apache.org/struts)and then Webwork
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/webwork). Both of these are good Model
View
> Controller frameworks for JSP being developed by some very smart people. I
> suggest that your Java people should be at least be looking at these if
you
> can't convince them to go to CF. I found both had quite a steep learning
> curve and neither is quite released to version 1 yet. I too got excited
when
> I found CachedRowSet and wrote a bean to use it but gave up over issues of
> jdbc drivers of varying quality and features.
>
> I then discovered Fusebox. With CF 5 ready to go it was just too good to
> move past. I couldn't see any compelling reason to switch to JSP and we
are
> about to start redeveloping our app using XFB.
>
> I still like Java but I am not convinced about the JSP idea. My
frustration
> with CF being 'just' a scripting language is still there to some extent so
I
> am looking at doing some of my back end stuff in Java using either Java
CFX
> tags or CFOBJECT when I want the features of a 'real' language. I really
> feel like I have the best of both worlds now.
>
> Cheers all
> Ross
>
> (A New Zealander in the USA. Been lurking here for a while.)
>
> --- Stacy Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > *sigh*
> >
> > Some peeps just don't get it. I'm 110% confident anything developed in
> > JSP can be replicated in CF and vice-versa (given the correct skillset
> > on the
> > developer). but MY GOD our place is OBSESSED with everything going
> > Java on
> > the front end...Projects are taking 10 times as long !!!
> [snip]
>
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