> Java custom tags and more info:
>
http://forums.allaire.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=200014
>
That's a great thread, thanks. When you combine CF, Java, and XML, the sky's
the limit.
Kory
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stacy Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:18 AM
Subject: RE: JSP vs CF
> That would be great! :)
>
> Java custom tags and more info:
>
http://forums.allaire.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=200014
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LOUIS JOSEPH ZEZERAN
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:17 AM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: Re: JSP vs CF
>
>
> I've just finished making an extension to fusebox which deals with
> XSLT. We have choosen PHP with Sablotron to do the project with, but I
> believe the ideas I've come up with are easily portable to CF, it's
> more coding and naming conventions to keep everything tidy than
> anything else. If people would like I can make it available to people
> on the list for viewing. After finishing the design stage of the
> project the design has come through pretty much unchanged and because
> of it I belive our efforts on the coding stage will be greatly
> minimised, even though we are using XSL to produce versions of the site
> for 3 different content types.
>
> Cheers
>
> Louis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kory Basaraba)
> Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:59 am
> Subject: Re: JSP vs CF
>
> > Could you point me in the direction of some of those XSL custom
> > tags? The
> > only ones I've found use MSXML, and I'd sure like to get my hands
> > on one for
> > Java. If that's too OT, you can reply to me off list.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Kory
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stacy Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:51 PM
> > Subject: RE: JSP vs CF
> >
> >
> > > That's EXACTLY how I see it !! Separate the business logic to
> > the back
> > > end...Leave for Java. Meanwhile kick-ass in the front end with
> > CF and
> > FB+XFB
> > > !! (Hardly the correct way to phrase it when presenting the idea
> > but I'm
> > > working on it)
> > >
> > > I've also been looking at incorporating XSL stylesheets into my FB
> > > designs...There's some great custom tags for the Java XSL
> > transformers out
> > > there. :)
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ross Keatinge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:45 PM
> > > To: Fusebox
> > > Subject: Re: JSP vs CF
> > >
> > >
> > > I can understand your feelings about JSP and CF Stacy. Here is
> > my story
> > for
> > > what its worth. I am a programmer with quite a bit of CF experience
> > although
> > > much of my other work has been in 'real' languages like C, VB
> > (some would
> > > argue the definition of 'real' but ...) and others. I work with
> > a page
> > > designer and last year we developed an ecommerce / storefront /
> > catalogsite
> > > in non-FB CF. I've always felt somewhat frustrated with CF
> > because its not
> > a
> > > strongly typed 'real' language.
> > >
> > > Our application needs lots of new features and is ready for a
> > version 2
> > > rewrite. This time I really want to get business logic and content
> > separated
> > > as much as possible. In the last few months I've made a big
> > effort to
> > learn
> > > Java because I somehow convinced myself that JSP / Servlets /
> > JavaBeanswere
> > > the way to go. I spent a lot of time playing with Struts
> > > (http://jakarta.apache.org/struts)and then Webwork
> > > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/webwork). Both of these are
> > good Model
> > View
> > > Controller frameworks for JSP being developed by some very smart
> > people. I
> > > suggest that your Java people should be at least be looking at
> > these if
> > you
> > > can't convince them to go to CF. I found both had quite a steep
> > learning> curve and neither is quite released to version 1 yet. I
> > too got excited
> > when
> > > I found CachedRowSet and wrote a bean to use it but gave up over
> > issues of
> > > jdbc drivers of varying quality and features.
> > >
> > > I then discovered Fusebox. With CF 5 ready to go it was just too
> > good to
> > > move past. I couldn't see any compelling reason to switch to JSP
> > and we
> > are
> > > about to start redeveloping our app using XFB.
> > >
> > > I still like Java but I am not convinced about the JSP idea. My
> > frustration
> > > with CF being 'just' a scripting language is still there to some
> > extent so
> > I
> > > am looking at doing some of my back end stuff in Java using
> > either Java
> > CFX
> > > tags or CFOBJECT when I want the features of a 'real' language.
> > I really
> > > feel like I have the best of both worlds now.
> > >
> > > Cheers all
> > > Ross
> > >
> > > (A New Zealander in the USA. Been lurking here for a while.)
> > >
> > > --- Stacy Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > *sigh*
> > > >
> > > > Some peeps just don't get it. I'm 110% confident anything
> > developed in
> > > > JSP can be replicated in CF and vice-versa (given the correct
> > skillset> > on the
> > > > developer). but MY GOD our place is OBSESSED with everything going
> > > > Java on the front end...Projects are taking 10 times as long !!!
> > > [snip]
> > >
> >
>
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