I have no argument with anything you've said here, Brad. I know that there
have been many people who have been able to deal with all kinds of crap and
still keep their principles.

As a general thing, though, it seems that most of the women who make it big
in the present business atmosphere are what some feminists refer to as
'Queen Bees', women who are happy to make it for themselves and care not a
whit for others.

Selma


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad McCormick, Ed.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Why men succeed at work


> Selma Singer wrote:
> > I don't think it works that way, Brad.
> >
> > I don't think a woman who would practice the manipulative and
power-oriented
> > business practices prevalent would be the same person who would
understand
> > how to change the workplace to be more humane, or perhaps even
understand
> > what was humane or not.
> [snip]
>
> I had a just slightly different example from personal
> experience in mind.
>
> When I was "at Yale", I had a sociology teacher: Robert M Cook,
> who founded a radical local political party in New Haven
> and ran for mayor, etc.
>
> He said to me that, had he understood what he was doing
> when he was doing what he had to do to get his PhD,
> he wouldn't have been ablke to do it (not because it was
> immoral, bur because it was meaningless but stressful).
>
> We know that
> there are some persons who "get their credential" and
> yet retain a sense of constructive values after they
> have "paid their dues", so that they can do some real good.
> I believe the reason people have to "pay their dues"
> is so that, by the time they get in those positions of
> power, they want mothing more than to punish the
> next generation ("kick the cat"), since they still dare not
> offend their elders and still betters, but they are now
> in the middle of the food chain, not at the bottom.
>
> Things work the way they work, or, as a friend of mine
> said to a person who had dinked his car door and the
> person said "It's only a car" -- my friend punched
> the person in the jaw and explained "It's only a jaw".
> Darwinean evolution does not always only hurt
> good creatures, even if it usually does....
>
> We can aspire to a better form of "non violent
> resistence" than just letting ourselves get run over by
> HumVees....
>
> \brad mccormick
>
> -- 
>    Let your light so shine before men,
>                that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)
>
>    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)
>
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