Selma,
I certainly agree with you. Rather than expecting men to change, I feel
that there is need to set up a training program so that women will be
able to steal men's signals.
Bill
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:35:58 -0400 "Selma Singer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There is considerable sociological evidence that women are at a
> disadvantage
> in business relationships precisely, as Bill has noted, because they
> do not
> have the same experience with sports that boys and men do.
>
> As a feminist who is not crazy about capitalism, I don't necessarily
> believe
> that that kind of interaction is necessarily good for human or
> societal
> development but that is a totally different issue.
>
> Selma
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Futurework] Why men succeed at work
>
>
> > Ray,
> >
> > You are absolutely right. A lot of times, men skip important
> issues and
> > come to a resolution having to do with the power structure of the
> group
> > or with known vested interests. A lot of times, women realize that
> there
> > are better ways of dealing with the issue but still are unaware
> that the
> > power structure has ended discussions. I certainly was not trying
> to
> > imply that men are better decision makers, just that they are
> attune to
> > signals coming in from the bench.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:10:05 -0400 "Ray Evans Harrell"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > writes:
> > > Was the issue truly resolved or was it just that a decision had
> been
> > > made?
> > >
> > > REH
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 8:53 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Futurework] Why men succeed at work
> > >
> > >
> > > > My hypothesis as to why men do better at work is that men, due
> to
> > > their
> > > > sports and other patterns of interaction, have created
> nonverbal
> > > and
> > > > coded patterns of communication when doing business. I have
> seen
> > > > situations where negotiations on an issue have ended where
> both
> > > men and
> > > > women are present and women have not realized that a decision
> has
> > > been
> > > > made.
> > > >
> > > > The males will be moving on to other issues while the woman
> is
> > > still
> > > > discussing the issue unaware that it has been resolved.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:02:18 -0700 Stephen Straker
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > > from this week's Economist:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <<<<
> > > > > > BE A MAN
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Men compete harder than women. That is why they do better
> > > > > > at work ...
> > > > > [cut]
> > > > > > women
> > > > > > and men have different attitudes to competing...
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe's men's attitudes towards work and towards their
> > > > > fellow workers is part of the PROBLEM ... ("Do unto others
> > > > > before they do it unto you", etc.). Many things we have
> > > > > talked about on this list over the years would suggest as
> > > > > much.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen Straker
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Vancouver, B.C.
> > > > >
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