At 3:06 PM -0400 5/3/02, The Poulins wrote: >This long thread got transmuted several different ways, and one of the >branches got into a topic that we see over and over in these lists. I know >we'll see it again before the year is out. I pasted two parts of the thread >below. > >When one buys a new Mac, the installed OS comes with its proper CD. OS >updates are usually free and downloadable from Apple. An OS upgrade is >usually a cost item, but an upgrade may be free as in the case of the OS X >10.1 Upgrade kit that was available while supplies lasted. When the >original owner wants to upgrade the OS cleanly and legally, that person >acquires the upgrade media legally, that is, in unused, uncopied condition. >If the owner then sells the Mac, the OS media that contains the installed, >licensed software must accompany the Mac. > >Yes indeed, it is reasonable that a used Mac have an OS installed. But if >the OS media does not come with the machine, part of the deal is missing! >That media is "part of the purchase price" unless explicitely agreed to >otherwise. The new owner assumes the responsibility to legally acquire an >OS CD and then make the machine match that CD. This excludes using or >copying an OS CD that belongs to another machine.
But ... what about my sister, who got a Performa from a friend who wanted a Windows machine instead? This came with no CD at all, and when my sister realized this was an important thing, and called the friend, the friend had no clue where the CD was. She thought she threw it away. So I bought an original of OS 8.5 (what came installed) on the Swap list for her. Is this not okay? It's not the original one at all, it's another one from another Mac, albeit an original with case and manual. Another instance: my original OS 8.0 CD died so I bought another from Swap because Apple doesn't sell them anymore. I would have no backup at all if I hadn't gotten a used CD. It's also an original. Now that machine came with OS 7.6, but I purchased this OS 8.0 CD. Since I was really purchasing the right to use it, doesn't Apple now owe me $15.00? Or another disk to replace the bad CD? Without it, and in event of a crash, I'd lose complete use of a machine I paid good money for. I believe in honesty but I think the industry is missing the complexity of this issue for users. There has to be a simpler way to deal with this - perhaps buy a subscription for the OS and as long as you pay the yearly fee, you are "legal" and can get new disks, upgrades? For old OSes, either Apple needs to support them and resend backup CDs, or they have to say, these are so old we don't care whether you have a license or not anymore. I think many folks forget, although it says in the License, that we are not buying a "product" at all, just permission to use the OS that still belongs to Apple. Theoretically at any time they could say Give the CD Back. Anne Keller Smith, Webdesign mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.earthpigz.com Please no attachments! Thanks. -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock! | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-List list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml> Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! <http://www.applelinks.com>
