Bruce Johnson wrote

> Be afraid, be very afraid. If they know as little about banking as they
> do computing, get your money out now.
> 
> Netscape and Mozilla are the *same* program; different versions, but
> the same code.
> 
> If the banking doesn't work with yours it's likely either a pop-up
> problem (enable them for that site) or a javascript problem.
> 
> Are you using 1.3.1 because you've not upgraded or because you're using
> the WamCom Mozilla build because you're still in OS 9?
> 
> If the former, get either Mozilla 1.7, Firefox 0.9 or Camino (all at
> the mozilla.org site)

The bank is Bank One, a very large regional bank, recently merged with
Chase, a Super Bank.  I was talking to a customer service person who
supposedly asked a computer person.  I said that the browsers shared the
same code, but the answer was not changed.  Who knows the skill level of the
person who answered?

I am using OS 9.1 do to the rudimentary tasks that I need to do.  I have no
need to switch to OSX, and the time it would take me to install it, make a
lot of mistakes, and learn how to use it are better spent doing my
rudimentary tasks with OS 9.1.  Or, doing something in the real world away
from this box.  Now, if I had somebody here that knows what they are doing
with software, I might try it.

I have not blocked pop-ups.  Now, I have seen that I can do that, selecting
some sites to allow pop-ups.  I might try it sometime.

My Macintosh Runtime for Java is the original 2.2.3.  I have downloaded and
installed MRJ 2.2.5, linked from the Mozilla About Plug-ins page.  I will
see next time if the bank transfer works now.  Is this the type of problem
which you had in mind?  Hmmm, no, maybe not.  I seem to remember that Java
and Javascript are not the same thing at all, they just unfortunately share
similar names.  

I would like to use Mozilla for the banking, especially if the Netscape
version is said by the bank to work.  Any details about the Javascript
problem you mentioned and fixes would be appreciated.

Philip Stortz wrote

> use netscape, CERT has actually issued an advisory suggesting that people not
> use
> exploiter, it's about time, a toy lock is more secure than that browser,
> independent of
> the os it's running on.  i certainly wouldn't use exploiter for banking (then
> again i
> refuse to use online or even telephone banking, though i realize some people
> do have a
> need beyond convenience).

I am aware that earlier versions of Explorer had an SSL problem, which was
fixed with version 5.1.5.  I will take your word that the browser is still
not secure.  I have not tried higher versions because several bloggers have
written that the higher it gets the more unstable it gets.  I assume that
the higher versions for OS 9.x are no more secure?  This version quits and
gives a memory error message-- sometimes frequently, sometimes not at all
for some time.  If I am still unable to use Mozilla for banking, I will try
iCab in current release first, and then, if that doesn't work, I will be
down to installing Netscape 7.02, unless there is another option.  How about
Opera?  I know that many don't like it, but it would just be for secure
banking.  Thanks for the security warning.

Dennis Davis wrote

> iCab works fine for many Banks, I have and use iCab first, Netscape 7.02
> second Mostly for Yahoo Mail as iCab won't work with this page although it i=
> s
> supposed for the up coming 3.0, and Explorer 5.1.7 last.




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