On Sep 4, 2005, David Elmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I installed Tiger ok on the internal ATA 60g. I could not work
out how to partition the disk as I wanted so I just said bugger
it and yes to everything and it fires up fine in X.

You may have missed a step or two. I am using Panther, and Tiger must be the same for your purposes. There is a Partition feature in Disk Utility available on your Tiger install CD/DVD. Go for Mac OS Extended to get HFS+.

But I really
want to run this QS in 9 for a while to get on with my work with
my 9 apps (I know about Classic... but don't worry about this).
I seem unable to install 9? When I put in the grey "Power Mac G4
Mac OS 9 Install" cd that has 9.2.2 - this CD was part of the
original set that came with an earlier X set of install CDs with
the computer), it starts from it fine but does not see any hard
drive at all to install it on. This happened even before I put
on Tiger and after it. The HD is there and can be seen by AP and
Disk Utilities etc but does not mount? How do I get 9 onto this
fancy machine? Please? How do I wipe the whole hd and partition
when I seem unable to get the HD to show up unless it is the
startup disk? I have nothing but CDs, DVDs, and the actual one
ata internal to start it at the moment. Any ideas? Anyone on
this list actually got a QS of roughly this type (933, 2MB
backside cache)?

I have a QS 733. Amount of backside cache is not relevant for this discussion. I assume your QS has been running OS X of some vintage, since you were able to install Tiger. It seems you did not reformat the hard drive. Insert your install CD/DVD. Read/print whatever ReadMe info you find on the CD/DVD. But whatever you find there should blend with the following summary. With whatever version of OS X you have running on the hard drive, go to Startup Disk in System Preferences, select your CD/DVD, and hit the Restart Button. From your CD/DVD, find Disk Utility. You can choose Erase (to reformat) or Partition (to both reformat and partition). Choose Partition. Chose the number of volumes you want and slide the divider bars to resize them. Format each volume in HFS+ as mentioned above or choose MaC OS Extended (Journaled) NOW if you want this feature to be available. You can turn if off and on later in Disk Utility. Check to Install Mac OS 9 Disk Drivers. This will completely wipe your hard drive, reformat, partition, and set it up to run OS 9.

BTW, Why can't the hell I drag 9 system folders onto the hard
disk (when started in X from the HD) and like that and then pick
it in the startup, restart and bingo have 9? Like I have always
done for years on 7600 and 7300s...?

Hmmm. I don't know that you can't. I did essentially that. This road map may help. I just checked my notes from a year ago when I migrated this QS from 9.2.2 on two hard drives to OS X (Panther) while retaining the original 9.2.2. I did not reinstall OS 9. I kept OS 9 on two of the partitions I had on my backup hard drive after clearing out a bunch of junk. Then I reformatted Drive One as above from the OS X install CD. I copied all the 9.2.2 stuff, system folder, apps, data, mail from backup to Drive One. I made sure everything was running fine on Drive One. Then I installed OS X on Drive One. Tuned OS X to use the OS 9 System Folder on its drive for Classic. Cleaned out that System Folder to remove extensions and control panels that Classic does not need. This is important if there are a lot of third party, non-Apple extras that you no longer need, just to reduce chance of conflicts and to make Classic startup quicker.

I can start up from that OS 9 System Folder on Drive One, or use it for Classic. I keep one of the original OS 9 System Folders on the backup drive alive as an alternate startup volume, and I unblessed the OS 9 in the other partition. If I wanted, I could set the OS X Classic Preferences to use OS 9 on the backup drive.

By the way, I have Classic starting up everytime I start up OS X. So the Classic applications are always ready. Works well, seamlessly, for the legacy stuff my wife still uses.

Good Luck,

Al Poulin
Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us.


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