I agree that complexity does not necessarily correlate with replayability. And it's obvious that many games can be made accessible without a keyboard, especially if the only interface is a menu. And the gyroscopes can definitely make up for some of the loss of a keyboard in games like Papa Sangre 2. But I do think that first person games could also be made more in depth and fast paced with a keyboard available. For instance did you ever find it cumbersome to maneuver your character in Papa Sangre 1? Or find it hard to tell how far you really were from that snuffle hog? Of course that's what gave the game some of it's challenge, so it worked well. But imagine trying to play Swamp on your iPhone without a keyboard. Are you going to tap your thumbs to run from the zombies? In game text chat would have also just died.
There is definitely a wide range of games that can be made accessible on iPhone, but as I said there is also a large portion of games that do make more sense with a keyboard and it does give you a lot of extra player inputs to work with as a developer. Fair enough that you don't enjoy strategy or RPGs, it's definitely a personal choice. I don't get any enjoyment from card or board games, and these are probably the types of games enjoyed by the largest population of blind players. On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: > I just don’t think that complexity of the game necessarily correlates with > replayability. I happen to prefer first-person shooters, trivia, and word > games, and these are games I can play over and over again. I played > Terraformers so many times i can’t count. I also don’t think accessibility > requires a keyboard, especially on IoS. If you factor in the gyroscope, IoS > games are more similar to video games. Moving the device or the body becomes > the interface. I realize this is more difficult with RPGs and strategy > games,but Solara has become very popular on IoS. I played it for awhile, but > strategy and RPGs are just not appealing to me. > > Teresa > > On the other hand, there are different fingers. > > On Dec 15, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Support <supp...@blindaudiogames.com> wrote: > >> Ah, I loved Secret of Mana on the SNES. I beat it, multiple times I think. >> >> Secret of Mana happens to be a game that would be very difficult to make >> accessible, even on a computer. >> And when doing so an accessible game author would likely make heavy use of >> extra shortcut keys for the player to get at information like health and >> mana that is usually presented visually at all times and can be seen at a >> glance. >> >> I suppose my main point is just that accessible versions of many games have >> more player input requirements than sighted versions. >> >> So as Che mentioned a keyboard is a requirement for a large portion of >> accessible games. And it makes it difficult to target IOS with those types >> of games knowing that each of your users will need to also own a bluetooth >> keyboard. >> >> >> >> On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:01 AM, "dark" <d...@xgam.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Teresa. >>> >>> I agree with you on replay, even in some of the basic games. I've replayed >>> choice of the dragon three times over and still haven't seen all of the >>> game, simply because as a gamebook it is highly replayable, and lets not >>> forget king of dragon pass with it's random set of events and other major >>> factors in the game. >>> >>> I can see Che's point with games like sixth sense and Zany touch and it is >>> true that there are very many arcade style games for Ios simply because the >>> fact of being on a small portable device lends itself to quick and casual >>> games, but that doesn't mean that is all that is available by any means. >>> >>> One game my brother has on his Ipad is Secret of Mana, an action rpg >>> similar to Zelda by square originally released for the Snes, and known to >>> be one of the longest and most complex games for that platform taking >>> nearly 50 hours to complete! >>> >>> So yeso yes, while there are lots of simpler, quicker games that's by no >>> means all the platform is capable of at all. >>> >>> Beware the Grue! >>> >>> Dark. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
