Exactly and that is a shame. You guys do a great deal of keeping a lot of blind gamers very happy with your products, sadly most of the regular games are going to be off limits to us. Lol, about the cars. Being blind myself but still kind of shudder at the prospective of blind car drivers all over the place. I can just see a cop pull one of us over and saying, 'gee what is wrong with you driving like that, are you blind?' yes... grin* unfortunately a lot of the general public is still pretty ignorant when it comes to the needs of disabled people or the aides out there for them. I still get disbelief a lot of times when I offer a person my email address. Lol. most have no clue blind people can run computers, let alone what we use to run them chrissy.
-----Original Message----- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream game accessibility Hi, I have to agree with you. Recently there has been some talk about a car that can drive itself, and of course the media felt this might be a revolutionary breakthrough for groups such as the blind who can not drive cars. In the medias eyes this is big news. However, the fact that GMA, Jim Kitchen, or myself are working on accessible games for the blind aren't even worth a mentioning on the back page of your average news paper most of the time. What media attention we do get from time to time is often there for a quick "wow" responce and is quickly forgotten. Frankly, the general public doesn't care, and generally is unconcerned about blind accessibility issues like this. ChB wrote: > Frankly the public does not care if a blind person is able > to play video games, so the media interest would be non > existent. I think you'd get more media attention if you > partioned to car developers complaining about not being able > to drive then you do if you complain about video game > accesibility. I hate that fact as much as anyone, as I had > played games from the days of old nintendo nes when I still > had sight. > chrissy > > -----Original Message----- > From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org > [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun > everiss > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:07 PM > To: Munawar Bijani; Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream game accessibility > > good point. > Another way we could do this was approach comapanies and > make accessible front ends to their stuff. > ok so its probably not going to be cost effective and so we > do it for free at first and wait. > we also need some media recognition and this means doing > something big. > taking in mind that media can both damage and help as well > as hinder though we would have to be carefull. > ofcause its hit and miss. > and time and other things, hmph but I think its feesable. > in theory at least. > At 04:40 a.m. 17/08/2009, you wrote: > >> Hi Josh, >> The suing part requires money not many of us can dish out. >> > As for blackmail, well, they have advanced blocking features > because I'm sure they deal with that kind of stuff every > day. It's easy to ignore spam mail--just press your delete > button. What are you going to tell them, "make it accessible > or else?" They'll just laugh in your face "we're a multi > billion dollar company, a petty $5,000 lawsuit won't dent > us. Good bye." Throwing tantrums gets you nowhere in today's > times. > >> Munawar A. Bijani >> "Knowledge is of two types: absorbed and heard. The heard >> > knowledge is only useful if it is absorbed." - Imam Ali Ibn > Abu Talib, Nahj Al-Balagha > >> mailto:munaw...@gmail.com >> http://www.bpcprograms.com >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh" >> > <jkenn...@gmail.com> > >> To: "gamers list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:02 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] mainstream game accessibility >> >> >> >>> Hi Thomas, >>> >>> Ok then. why not send them mass emails until they get sick >>> > of us and take them to court over it and sue them. If we are > an insect that can be swatted out of the way, then lets make > ourselves look big, huge, gigantic! lets make a program that > sends them emails and does automated calling to the > companies once per week or once per month which reminds them > we will not go away and we will not stand for their > rudeness! > >>> Josh >>> >>> Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my >>> > petition at: > http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html > >>> and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net >>> > follow me on twitter at http://www.twitter.com/jkenn337 > >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the >>> > web, at > >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the >>> > management of the list, > >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the >> > web, at > >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the >> > management of the list, > >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the > web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the > management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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