When I began regularly using NVDA I was thrilled to find out that it
didn't conflict with games at all.  JFW hogs the keyboard, making
working with programs slow and uncomfortable at times especially if
they're memory-intensive (Sound Forge).  There are ways to subdue JFW
programatically. Maybe developers should investigate them as I think
JFW is the only screenreader which really makes it hard to play games
without putting it to sleep or unloading.

On 11/30/09, Jacob Kruger <jac...@mailzone.co.za> wrote:
> http://www.empowermentzone.com/saysetup.exe
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "shaun everiss" <shau...@xtra.co.nz>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games
>
>
>> weird where do you get the say tools from? I have most of the
>> empowermentzone tools thanks to top tech tidbits but hmmm.
>> At 06:32 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote:
>>>The one thing is I've played around with Jamal Masry's SayTools where you
>>>can get a program to talk using their screenreaders voice, or sapi if you
>>>want to.
>>>
>>>Other joke is thought about creating a game using actual jaws scripts,
>>>but, for example, to generate a random number, you'd have to make a call
>>>to an external DLL or something.
>>>
>>>Stay well
>>>
>>>Jacob Kruger
>>>Blind Biker
>>>Skype: BlindZA
>>>'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Peterson"
>>><bpeterson2...@cableone.net>
>>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:44 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've never actually tried using Window-Eyes with Lone Wolf. I tend to use
>>>>
>>>>Sapi. But I am glad the game offers that option in case I ever decided to
>>>>
>>>>mix things up a bit for variety. And if I was to start developing games I
>>>>
>>>>would try to include options for as many screen readers as I could right
>>>>from the outset so as not to seem like I was targetting one specific
>>>>group of users.
>>>>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of
>>>>pizza?
>>>>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward"
>>>><thomasward1...@gmail.com>
>>>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:32 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Bryan,
>>>>>Well, don't forget GMA. As of Lonewolf 3.5 the game has Window Eyes  API
>>>>>
>>>>>support. That happened because us non-Jaws users nagged David Greenwood
>>>>>until he realized not all of his Lonewolf customers are Jaws users, and
>>>>>we want the same access to the game as Jaws users. If he could use the
>>>>>JFW API for the game he could use the same for Window Eyes too.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the end he finally added Window Eyes and Sapi 5 support in version
>>>>>3.5. However, that might not have happened if there were not enough
>>>>>non-Jaws users to maret such an upgrade. However, this is clearly a good
>>>>>
>>>>>case of how the developer uses Jaws, developed the game initially for a
>>>>>Jaws user base, and finally was asked to include other screen readers as
>>>>>
>>>>>part of the games speech output.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cases like this sets a president that we can't assume what access
>>>>>technology, if any, is present on the target computer. These days it
>>>>>could be a free and open source solution like NVDA for all we know.
>>>>>Therefore the game itself should provide all that is necessary for
>>>>>providing accessibility to itself independant of any specific screen
>>>>>reader or speech software that may or may not be present.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bryan Peterson wrote:
>>>>>>The only company I've seen make allownaces is BSC Games, and that
>>>>>>wasn't even a game. It was actually one of their Blindsoftware
>>>>>>products, that Day-by-day Professional which offers support for
>>>>>>Window-Eyes. But I still don't think they realize how well Window-Eyes
>>>>>>meshes with games. I remember I forgot to unload WIndow-Eyes, which as
>>>>>>I said I still do out of habbit, and I played a full game of Classic
>>>>>>Pipe and didn't even realize Window-Eyes was still running until I'd
>>>>>>quit Pipe. That was a welcome surprise. So I'm trying to unload
>>>>>>Window-Eyes less when I play most audio games.
>>>>>>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of
>>>>>>pizza?
>>>>>>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
>>>>>
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