thanks At 09:52 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote: >http://www.empowermentzone.com/saysetup.exe > >Stay well > >Jacob Kruger >Blind Biker >Skype: BlindZA >'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' > >----- Original Message ----- From: "shaun everiss" <[email protected]> >To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:43 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games > > >>weird where do you get the say tools from? I have most of the empowermentzone >>tools thanks to top tech tidbits but hmmm. >>At 06:32 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote: >>>The one thing is I've played around with Jamal Masry's SayTools where you >>>can get a program to talk using their screenreaders voice, or sapi if you >>>want to. >>> >>>Other joke is thought about creating a game using actual jaws scripts, but, >>>for example, to generate a random number, you'd have to make a call to an >>>external DLL or something. >>> >>>Stay well >>> >>>Jacob Kruger >>>Blind Biker >>>Skype: BlindZA >>>'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Peterson" >>><[email protected]> >>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:44 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games >>> >>> >>>>I've never actually tried using Window-Eyes with Lone Wolf. I tend to use >>>>Sapi. But I am glad the game offers that option in case I ever decided to >>>>mix things up a bit for variety. And if I was to start developing games I >>>>would try to include options for as many screen readers as I could right >>>>from the outset so as not to seem like I was targetting one specific group >>>>of users. >>>>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? >>>>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]> >>>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:32 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Hi Bryan, >>>>>Well, don't forget GMA. As of Lonewolf 3.5 the game has Window Eyes API >>>>>support. That happened because us non-Jaws users nagged David Greenwood >>>>>until he realized not all of his Lonewolf customers are Jaws users, and we >>>>>want the same access to the game as Jaws users. If he could use the JFW >>>>>API for the game he could use the same for Window Eyes too. >>>>> >>>>>In the end he finally added Window Eyes and Sapi 5 support in version 3.5. >>>>>However, that might not have happened if there were not enough non-Jaws >>>>>users to maret such an upgrade. However, this is clearly a good case of >>>>>how the developer uses Jaws, developed the game initially for a Jaws user >>>>>base, and finally was asked to include other screen readers as part of the >>>>>games speech output. >>>>> >>>>>Cases like this sets a president that we can't assume what access >>>>>technology, if any, is present on the target computer. These days it could >>>>>be a free and open source solution like NVDA for all we know. Therefore >>>>>the game itself should provide all that is necessary for providing >>>>>accessibility to itself independant of any specific screen reader or >>>>>speech software that may or may not be present. >>>>> >>>>>Bryan Peterson wrote: >>>>>>The only company I've seen make allownaces is BSC Games, and that wasn't >>>>>>even a game. It was actually one of their Blindsoftware products, that >>>>>>Day-by-day Professional which offers support for Window-Eyes. But I still >>>>>>don't think they realize how well Window-Eyes meshes with games. I >>>>>>remember I forgot to unload WIndow-Eyes, which as I said I still do out >>>>>>of habbit, and I played a full game of Classic Pipe and didn't even >>>>>>realize Window-Eyes was still running until I'd quit Pipe. That was a >>>>>>welcome surprise. So I'm trying to unload Window-Eyes less when I play >>>>>>most audio games. >>>>>>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of >>>>>>pizza? >>>>>>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>--- >>>>>Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>>>[email protected]. >>>>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>>>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>>>please send E-mail to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>>[email protected]. >>>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>>please send E-mail to [email protected]. >>>> >>>>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>signature database 4649 (20091130) __________ >>>> >>>>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>>http://www.eset.com >>>> >>> >>> >>>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >>>database 4649 (20091130) __________ >>> >>>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>>http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>[email protected]. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> >>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >>database 4650 (20091130) __________ >> >>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >>http://www.eset.com >> >> > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >database 4650 (20091130) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > > > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to [email protected].
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