Hi Thomas,

One difference that I see is that running my WinKit.zip setup install installs 
backwards compatibility.  Your needed install will up grade my C++ libraries.  
So, may I respectfully ask you, can you promise me that the new C++ libraries 
are backwards compatible.  That is, if I install them, that the up grade will 
not blow up any of my very very old programs such as Note Pad, Internet 
Explorer, Windows Media Player etc that are part of windows and may rely on the 
C++ libraries that shipped with the versions of those programs that I am 
running and rely on?

Yes Sir, I know that I am very far behind with JFW 4.02.  It does and has 
worked for me every since I have gone from Windows 98 to XP.  And yes, the 
expense of JFW 11 is a problem for me since the state nor anyone else has ever 
paid for any hardware or software for me.  You know, no JFW, note taker, 
braille display or anything.  Of course that is because I am not a student and 
not looking to be employed.

I must also say, that I am not a multi tasker.  One web site or whatever is as 
much as I can handle at a time.  Well you know other than I can appreciate that 
I can highlight text on a web site etc and then also open Note Pad or whatever 
to paste that text into it to save as a text file for future reference etc.

I'm not sure, I will have to try to open more than one web site at a time.  I'm 
sure though that I would have to open more than one instance of Internet 
Explorer to do that.


----- Original Message -----
Hi Jim,
Ah, but we aren't so different really. If I want to play your games on
Windows 7, which I do, I have to install Winkit to get the backwards
compatibility runtime libraries for VB. Well, if you want to play my
games on XP you have to install the latest Visual C++ Runtime
libraries. Either one is not very big, and according to the  Microsoft
website the full Visual C++ runtime install is 6 MB. That's nothin'
compared to installing the Java 6 Runtime Environment which is like 40
MB last I checked or the .Net Framework upgrades that are close to 300
MB now.
The major difference between what you do and I do is you still use
Visual Basic 6 and I use Visual C++ 2008 along with the Windows
Platform SDK to write my games. I need the Visual Basic Runtime to
play your games and you need the Visual C++ Runtime to play mine. It
is not a big deal really.
As for Jaws 4.02, yeah, that's pretty ancient. There is a lot of
applications it does not support like Mozilla Firefox 3.6, Internet
Explorer 8,  Microsoft Office 2007,  and so on. You couldn't even
think about upgrading to Windows 7 without a major Jaws upgrade to
Jaws 11 which would be extremely expensive for you sinceyou are so far
behind on updates. You'd pretty much have to use an open source
alternative like NVDA instead if cost is a major factor in upgrading.
I'm not going to argue with your choices and decisions as you have
what you obviously like. Willem and I feel differently. I for one
really like Firefox and hardly ever use Internet Explorer. That is of
course a personal decision, because I feel it is more secure and I
love the multitab browsing ability. Of course, Internet Explorer 8 now
has multitab browsing too, but as with everything else Microsoft got
the idea from someone else and now tries to passit off as their own
idea. Sounds like another screen reader I know that goes by the name
of Jaws. They pretty much got several of their features by copying
innovations from other screen reader manufacturers and passed those
updates off to their customers as new ideas who were ignorant of what
the other screen reader manufacturers were doing.



I'm amazed, that it works at all.

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