where is the game  you developed for us?
while you do not do any work whatsoever, and they do, please be
respectfull, because, after all, playing their games is more
entertaining than listening to your criticism.
as thomas stated, either you learn to criticise in a respectful way, or
honestly, all morals behind what you are saying are going to vanish.

thank you,

Mauricio almeida
-----Mensagem original-----
De: Shiny protector <muhamme...@googlemail.com>
Para: "Lori Duncan" <lori_dunca...@hotmail.com>,"Gamers Discussion list" 
<gamers@audyssey.org>
Data: Segunda, 29 de Novembro de 2010 16:15
Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft

The babysoft deserve it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lori Duncan" <lori_dunca...@hotmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft


> Personally if it were me I'd keep going with my game creating and to heck
> with what people say!  If there's more people who love the games than
> don't then you've got something worth fighting for, but to just completely
> vanish is quite disappointing, especially to new gamers who don't know the
> score, it reflects badly on the company if you just exit quickly without a
> reason.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damien Pendleton" <dam...@x-sight-interactive.net>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft
>
>
>> Guys,
>> IMHO, it is precisely this sort of critical attitude that causes game
>> developers to feel disheartened and want to stop developing games. It is
>> precisely those sorts of remarks and comments that put me off writing
>> games for a while after the Acefire performance.
>> If I remember rightly there was a time when the owner of Bavisoft himself
>> was part of the list, and he was getting flamed pretty badly. Yes that
>> was a while ago, but it still happened, and now it looks like he's
>> disappeared off the face of the earth, and they're still being flamed.
>> It was an attempt at marketing, and I believe a very good one.
>> Considering Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham were their very first games, I
>> think they were awesome. The only thing I'm slightly disappointed about
>> is I don't think we'll ever see the front cover of Chillingham II, let
>> alone an audio trailer.
>> They must have had a very good reason for not communicating any more.
>> Things happen in people's lives that consumers don't seem to think can
>> happen to businessmen. And although I don't personally know this Jeff
>> Gibbons, I'm sure all he had at heart were good intentions.
>> Just my opinion on the matter.
>> Regards,
>> Damien.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Shiny protector" <muhamme...@googlemail.com>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft
>>
>>
>>> They are seriously irresponsible idiots. Bavisoft, if you are just
>>> stupid dunderheads, that's what you get! Seriously, their games are not
>>> worth it. Who would want to buy grizzly gulch and perchous it in stead
>>> of a demo? Actually I've thought that Bavisoft are just freaking idiots
>>> and I wouldn't be surprised if their servers get hacked, or if their
>>> games are hacked because they are just brainless with no brains. Lol.
>>> Actually Hey, I am the owner of bavisoft. I don't get any games, its a
>>> big surprise. Because are you brainless? Your being accusatory!
>>> Booooooooooo! I think they should be called babysoft.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "shaun everiss" <sm.ever...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft
>>>
>>>
>>>>I havn't touched their site for ages.
>>>> the last time I touched it it was last year.
>>>> nothing has been released, nothing has been communicated.
>>>> their games exist if you know where to get them.
>>>> If they are hacked and they probably are then it serves them right.
>>>> They didn't really do to much for us and now they get it.
>>>> Oh well.
>>>> I wouldn't even bother going back.
>>>> No communications = no existance at all as far as I care.
>>>> At 05:06 a.m. 29/11/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>Hi all
>>>>>I have been following numerous threads on this list about bavisoft and
>>>>>I am
>>>>>fully aware that they are not in touch with the blind community.
>>>>>But I decided to check out their website this afternoon just to see how
>>>>>their website looks like.
>>>>>And I got a warning telling me the website www.bavisoft.com contains
>>>>>malware. I refrained from visiting the website for now.Is this really
>>>>>the
>>>>>case?
>>>>>I got to a google page that witnessed that they found malware on
>>>>>bavisoft on
>>>>>22 november.
>>>>>Do I need to take this warning seriously or can I  ignore the warning?
>>>>>Have anybody been on bavisoft's website lately?
>>>>>If their site really contains malware, do you think that its their
>>>>>intention
>>>>>to put malware on their site?
>>>>>This google page said that in some cases,  although  the people  owning
>>>>>the
>>>>>website, did not intend to put malware on their site, other people may
>>>>>put
>>>>>malware on the site.
>>>>>I haven't heard any wicked things about bavisoft, only that they do not
>>>>>get
>>>>>back to their customers.
>>>>>I just thought of letting everybody know of this.
>>>>>Happy gaming.
>>>>>
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