true mike.
To know you actually ordered the game and are happy to wait an extra month may just mean something to those that think of complaining. I should again congratulate tom on being as open has he is with everying down to ideas.
While he doesn't post every week if something needs it he does.
True for a well he nursed things along by posting every month till people had trust now he just posts when ever but now we trust him mostly and so we don't mind the waits.
 At 12:40 a.m. 21/01/2011, you wrote:
What we have here is an imperfect situation. I can absolutely sympathise with people's eagerness to just get the game. I'm one of those who pre-ordered the original game when I didn't even have to. James North would likely have given me a free copy to review for Audyssey but I wanted to show my support for this particular project of his. I'm out just as much as everyone else but I know when I see a masterpiece in the making. A little more patience and moral support from all of us now could yield far more entertainment that we'll get in the final product. The changes he's thinking of here will add many happy hours or even weeks of fun to people's ultimate experience of the game. Additionally, Tom will be more satisfied with his creation and we'll have a better artist for that going forward as he tackles Raceway and other projects. There's never been a situation quite like this and I doubt we'll see such again. I'd like to see this turn into the very best game that it can for the time, patience, money and upheaval we've all gone through over this project. What's another month or even three months when you consider how much time has already been invested? Instead of just taking the easy way out, Tom offers us something better and all he asks in return is some patience. I for one am more than happy to give him that time.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "shaun everiss" <sm.ever...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Levels


well tom, they have been waiting a fecking long time for the games.
That you had to write your own engine has slowed things down.
TO be fair if I was a preorder user I'd probably be going down your throat at you, flaming, swearing and such.
These people have waited years and years for this game or games.
I think they are rather fed up with the waiting.
This is not your fault, the new engine for the most part really rocks and will enable you to do a major load of stuff. But they don't care anymore they want the fecking game after all they payed for it!!!
 At 08:09 p.m. 20/01/2011, you wrote:
Hi Jacob,

That's absolutely right. The problem is though that I have taken a lot
of personal heat and criticism over how I have managed this game
project so far. I took time out to rewrite/convert the engine from C#
to C++, I took some time to look at SFML and SDL for cross-platform
development, etc and all some people did is nothing but wine and
complain that the game isn't getting finished on their personal time
table. In fact, someone publicly balled me out on the USA Games list
around two weeks ago complaining about how frustrated he was that
neither Raceway or Mysteries of the Ancients was finished.

According to him I took over the games from James North in 2006 and
that was plenty enough time to have at least one of these games done
in 2008. Although, he didn't come out and say it he hinted around in a
round about way that I was goofing off and fooling around rather than
programming the games he paid for etc. That's a rather typical message
I get in my inbox all too often. So with that in mind you can hardly
blame me if I'm less than eager to rewrite a couple of levels and
expand the game itself knowing there is bound to be a few loons out
there accusing me of intentionally delaying the release, goofing off,
or whatever when in reality I'm busting my butt off to improve the
game for their benifit. Never mind the fact I didn't have to acquire
the rights to Raceway etc from James North in the first place. Doesn't
make me feel all that apreciated when they do that to me.

Cheers!


On 1/20/11, Jacob Kruger <jac...@mailzone.co.za> wrote:
> Your ideas sound good to me - an old joke as a developer is you
need to want
> to do it the way you're doing it to get it done exactly right - if that
> makes sense.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger

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