Hi Che, My apologies. I sincerely am not trying to be obtuse, but have always strived to help others the best I can to the best of my abilities. My intentions were never to confuse, intimidate, or put down others for choosing something else. I merely wanted to state the facts as I understand them. That is where you and I disagree, and the source of this discussion.
In a way programming languages are like which screen reader to use. A lot of it boils down to personal preference, personal opinion, and therefore is very subjective. I'm sure if you put a bunch of potential blind computer users in a room who are considering buying a screen reader and then march out a Jaws user, Window-Eyes user, Hal user, NVDA user, etc and have a public debate you would end up with an argument similar to the one we have now. Each would have reasons why or why not their particular screen reader is better than the other ones, and the people in the audience, those watching the debate, could be very confused during the debate. Moreover its hard to make any kind of decision in a situation like that because it requires practical hands on experience which they simply do not have to make an informed decision on their own. When it comes to programming languages we are faced with the exact same kind of situation. As a personal preference I tend to stick to C-Style languages like C, C++, C#, and Java, and since I obviously like them I am more likely to promote them rather than VB or Python which I do not like I guess as I am pretty vocal about what I do not like some people are confused, unsure, and feel as though they are being put down because of it. For that I am sorry. That's not my intent. I never wanted people to think they are "losers" just because they don't do what I say. I'm not like that at all. As for this entire discussion I'm pretty sick and tired of it too. I'd really like it if we can find some amicable way to settle this issue once and for all and put it behind us. I don't want to see the list, more importantly, this community to be torn apart and destroyed over such a rediculous argument. If that means I must resign as list moderator and leave so be it. As for your last message I felt it was way too harsh and overblown, and I found it extremely insulting, to say the least, that you chose to start this on the list. You could have talked to me off list, man to man, but no you had to flame, insult, humiliate, and utterally tare me down on list, and that is the height of disrespect in my opinion. I'm very angry, hurt, and extremely insulted. You are very fortunate I'm showing some restraint right now as I'm in a very bad mood. The kind of mood where I'd cuss you up one side and down the other because I don't appreciate being insulted publicly for any reason. I will not stand for it. Either you go or I go, but one of us won't be here by the end of this debate if we can't find some kind of amicable solution. Finally, you said I've been beaten over the head several times with your point by other developers etc. Perhaps so, but did you ever think I stand firm by my opinions. Maybe I say what I say because I feel it is the right position, the right opinion, etc. If you call that obtuse so be it, but you are not going to change my mind or get me to retract things I said no matter how much you insult me and piss me off.All that will get you and this community is one less developer. I'm right now considering closing USA Games and just walking away from it all, because I sure as hell don't feel very appreciated right now. I've had enough negative criticism from this community for a life time. If it isn't one thing its another. Sorry to say this attack was about the last straw I can take, and I'm just about ready to say, "to hell with the blind gaming community! I've had enough with it!" I'm sorry if people are offended by that, but its the truth. I'm sick and tired of people bitching that Mysteries of the Ancients isn't done. I"m sick and tired of people bitching that Raceway isn't done. I'm damn sure sick and tired of being beaten over the head by a few developers who get pissed off and bent out of shape over an impersonal debate over programming languages etc. Now, I am extremely pissed off, and I'm ready to just walk away from the entire sorry mess. So don't be surprised if I just don't quit like James North and go somewhere else where I might, just might, be appreciated by the online community. Frankly, I'm fed up with the bull crap and not going to put up with it any longer. Goodbye! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
