On 10/7/02 9:56 PM, "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> on 2002/10/7 5:41 PM, "Martin Cooper" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Of course, I know Velocity fans won't like this any better, >> but if you bring >>> the JSP example on that page up to date, using JSTL, you'll >> have this: >>> >>> <c:choose> >>> <c:when test="${empty param.name}"> >>> Hello World >>> </c:when> >>> <c:otherwise> >>> Hello, <c:out value="${param.name}"/> >>> </c:otherwise> >>> </c:choose> >> >> I dunno about you, but I would much rather teach my >> non-programmer designers >> to type: >> >> #if ($foo) >> Hello, $foo >> #else >> Hello World >> #end > > You mean this, taken from the page, don't you? > > <html> > <head><title>Hello</title></head> > <body> > <h1> > #if ($request.getParameter("name") == null) > Hello World > #else > Hello, $request.getParameter("name") > #end > </h1> > </body></html> > > At least if you're using JSP/JSTL, you don't have to explain method calls to > your "non-programmer designers". I was trying to stay out, but this *always* comes up in these discussions, and I think it's somewhat disingenuous. First, you have a similar thing in JSTL, and one added and desginers who work with JavaScript on the client side get method calls. It's not differnet than >> >> Than the bunch of pseudo XML programming language junk you quoted >> above...ouch, my hands hurt just looking at that...oh wait, people are >> supposed to use GUI drag and drop for all of that >> stuff...yea...right... >> >> Oh yea, should I mention that Velocity syntax has remained >> unchanged since >> it was first released as 1.0 (back in April 2001)? I wonder >> how many times >> JSP/JSTL/Struts/FooBar syntax will need to be brought 'up to date'... > > I see no syntax changes, only new tags and attributes. > > -- > Martin Cooper > > >> >> WAKE UP PEOPLE. >> >> -jon >> >> -- >> StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment >> 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco >> http://studioz.tv/ >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-203-355-2219 (w) Adeptra Inc. +1-203-247-1713 (m) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
