On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 17:20 -0800, Bill Barker wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Colebourne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jakarta General List" <general@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?
> 
> 
> > From: "Henri Gomez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Well I'd like to know the pros and cons of Tomcat being TLP.
> > >
> > > As I said in tomcat-dev, it was proposed when ant became TLP and at
> > > this time the consensus was to stay under jakarta umbrella.
> > >
> > > What motivate the move to TLP now.
> >
> > Currently, Tomcat developers are having to take time away from their main
> > task (coding) to answer management issues raised by Jakarta. This raises
> the
> > question of whether Tomcat is big enough and mature enough to manage these
> > issues itself, without the involvement of Jakarta.
> >
> 
> Great.  Now this thread has moved from JBoss-bashing to dissing the entire
> Tomcat community.
> 
> I'm looking forward to your involvement on tomcat-dev so that we can all
> know that Tomcat has the proper adult supervision.

this isn't tomcat bashing: it applies equally to all jakarta
sub-projects. 

the jakarta pmc (including stephen) supervises every sub-project
(including tomcat) on behalf of the board. once a sub-project community
feels that they are ready to manage their own affairs, that's great but
there can be no question of self-governing sub-projects: it's time for
them to move on and up :)

- robert


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