-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Phil Barnett wrote: |>> Anything that makes it easier to transition from the other Linux |>> flavors where the init files are laid out very differently would make those |>> testing the waters feel much more welcome. If that's not anyone's |>> goal here, then I'm tilting at windmills. |> |> I'm not sure what you mean here. Yes, there are some differences |> with the layout of the runlevel directories but Gentoo uses the |> same basic structure as RH and Mandrake do. | | Well, I guess that's where you and I differ. I don't think they work | at all the same. I see Gentoo's run levels as more like BSD than RH. I have a Redhat 7.3 machine on this network and I've just checked and Redhat uses the same /etc/init.d/ directory for keeping its init scripts in as Gentoo does.
| Really, the service script is only about one thing. | Abstraction. | If I have a room full of several differing servers and I'm and admin, | the last thing I want to have to remember in the heat of the moment | is how to do something on _this_ machine. As far as I'm aware, /etc/init.d/ is the standard Unix place to keep these scripts and the argument you've made above for abstraction is really just an argument for standardisation. If all your servers keep their init scripts in /etc/init.d/ then there's no problem is there? You know where to find them. | All the service script does is abstract the stopping and starting of | servers so you no longer need to know which directory to look in to | find the scripts. Perhaps you have never dealt with a room full of a | hundred different servers, but anything we can do to help that guy | out will be appreciated. I fail to see that a script that can be summarised as a one line bash script provides any useful level of abstraction. I've just checked a Debian machine, and that doesn't have a 'service' script either. I'd like to turn this argument around on you: If you want this 'abstraction' so that you don't have to remember each distro's individual way of doing things then surely you agree that encouraging the use of a 'service' script that only Redhat (after a very quick check) seems to use is a BAD thing, not a good thing? If it means that much to you just copy the service script over to your Gentoo machine from a Redhat machine and be done with it, or, produce an ebuild (like say sys-apps/redhat-compatibility) which supplies this and any other of Redhat's home-made scripts that you like. Then you and any other future Redhat refugees can add all this stuff in in one go and everyone's happy. I don't think there's a good argument for including it in the core Gentoo distribution though. Andy -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+U5oTX3TTUvZURBERArGYAKCTQv8tBBz9mHjuWShaLJ0MWYmqmACfXpR0 dN08JZVsH4b4FUblIHV+/64= =Oliz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
