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I guess a lot would depend on your training, Bob. I trained in Cessnas, and my CFI made me do tons of flap-less landings, so it wasn't too bad of a transition to the 'Coupe for me. He said he'd seen flap motors die enough times that he didn't want anybody dependent on them. That said, I still think my 'Coupe taught me more about pitch, airspeed, and flying a good, clean final than any Cessna. If you've got 40 degrees of flaps at your disposal, you can salvage some not-so-nice approaches. Leslie Holbrook Alon A2 N161LH (Flying Colors #1) Chester, CT 3B9 >From: Bob Saville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Bob Saville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Ralph.Maria Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: Ercoupe Hangar Flying <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Slowest Cruise Speeds >Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:07:48 -0800 > >----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any >advice in this forum.]---- > > >Hi gang, > Just a thought......after getting used to 'depending' on those >'barn-door' flaps on the Cessnas, >how many students or low time pilots would be able to make the landing when >they discovered on final >approach that 'the flaps won't go down'? Sounds like 'go-around' time and >try a whole new method of >landing which they haven't been train in. (Assuming of course that it's >more serious than just a popped >circuit breaker that could be corrected during the go-around.) > That's why Cessnas seem to 'float' instead of touching down, it's the >extra lift created by the >flaps. > >Bob Saville > > > >"Ralph.Maria Finch" wrote: > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following >any advice in this forum.]---- > > > > I'm with Hartmut. > > > > I can fly around at below 50mph IAS all day and not > > lose altitude with the correct throttle setting. Of > > course that wouldn't be considered a normal cruise, > > but it's certainly possible. > > > > The original poster seemed to want to fly in cruise > > with his buddies with their slower airplanes. This is > > easily done (70-80 mph) with no harm to anything > > except your sanity, you will be bored silly at those > > speeds. The Coupes make much better use of their > > ponies than most aircraft. > > > > As for "falling out of the sky" at lower airspeeds, > > why propagate that myth?? The Coupes sink more than > > the notorious Cessna floaters that we are all trained > > on, but that simply means it takes a couple of flights > > to learn new habits. I quickly came to appreciate the > > Coupes' characteristics and now dislike the Cessnas' > > tendency to resist landing. My landings are > > consistently much better with the Coupes. > > > > ---------------------------- > > From: Hartmut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Slowest Cruise Speeds > > > > That does not make sense. > > When flying slow , the engine does not generate much > > heat, the cowl > > flaps on a Coupe are wide open all > > the time and I doubt a extreme nose high attitude is > > given at speeds at > > around 85 MPH.... > > I find my Coupe extreme nose high with 45 MPH, but > > would not consider > > this a practical low speed flying > > technique. > > All other Speeds should allow for sufficient cooling > > in regard to the > > power setting. > > > > Hartmut > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > >========================================================================= ===== > > To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > >========================================================================= ===== >To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
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