Thank you, Keith. How does one join EOS by the way?
Best, jc Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 12:35 +0000, [email protected] a écrit : > Jean-Claude – > > As a Board member of EOS (and as an individual) I support fully (as > you would expect) this direction of travel and am on board! > > Best > > Keith > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Keith G Jeffery Director International Relations STFC > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The contents of this email are sent in confidence for the use of the > intended recipient only. If you are not one of the intended > recipients do not take action on it or show it to anyone else, but > return this email to the sender and delete your copy of it > > The STFC telecommunications systems may be monitored in accordance > with the policy available > from<http://dlitd.dl.ac.uk/policy/monitoring/monitoring% > 20statement.htm>. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Jean-Claude Guédon > Sent: 13 July 2012 12:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door > > > > > > The discussion presently going on is divisive and not useful. Both > Gold and Green are useful. Every little bit helps. Everybody is doing > as well as he/she can, and we all know it is not enough. Let us at > least trust each others' motives, please. > > Let us, therefore, go back to the basic idea of Peter, regarding the > possibility of convening a high-level group of administrators of > universities and research institutions. I would add high-level people > from granting agencies; researchers should also be involved, > especially those who, like Stuart Shieber, have managed getting > faculty-initiated mandates. Such a meeting has never been done before. > The BIOAI10 meeting in Budapest last February focused on broad > strategies rather than concrete strategic moves. > > Stevan has mentioned the group "Enabling Open Scholarship" led by > Bernard Rentier. First, Bernard is the perfect person to start the > move toward a meeting of the kind suggested by Peter by virtue of his > institutional standing. Perhaps this group is the right anchor for > such a move. How can we join this group, or how can we work with it? > We hear about it episodically, but nothing much seems to have come out > of it so far. Would this not be the best occasion to really get this > organization off the ground? > > The goal: convene a limited but high-power group of administrators and > researchers to develop a policy aiming at effective, immediate > implementation of the green road, and do so in a unified manner. The > implementation details should constitute a major part of this meeting: > we seem to know broadly what we want, but we have not yet fully agreed > on the the means to make it 100% effective. If researchers are > evaluated only from what is in repositories, they will deposit. Now, > why are so few institutions ready to implement such a policy? Are > funders of research really ready to apply similar rules to the > evaluation of applicants? Questions like these should be at the centre > of this meeting. > > The green road will have succeeded when researchers spontaneously turn > to repositories to search the literature. We are very far from this > and mandates are only one step in the right direction. The goal of > this meeting is to build decisive momentum. > > Anyone on board? > > Jean-Claude > > > > Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 10:00 +0200, Jan Velterop a écrit : > > > > If ever one needed an argument in favour of 'gold' OA, here it is. > > Jan > > On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:48, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > Le 13 juil. 2012 à 09:32, Peter Murray-Rust <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > >> What is the percentage of full-text ACS papers pubished by Liege which are > >> visible at time of publication? > > > > None, of course! > > Just ask for an e-print when you are in thé ORBi web site and we'll send it > > at once. It's Green, not Gold! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > GOAL mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
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