My brain hurts.. there's just so much. That GWT-Material library looks 
awesome but it appears to focus on mobile apps and tablets.

What I am currently writing at is a administration tool for, let's say 
store owners that will be able to maintain multiple stores and different 
offers.

It's nothing too complex I guess but I intent to create a desktop-like app. 
What I've seen so far from Smart GWT or Sencha would indeed provide 
everything I need.

I've been focusing a lot on server side things the last few months 
implementing the database, learning first Hibernate then jOOQ and all the 
Spring and Spring Security stuff etc. 

Now I am finally at the point where I could start to create a UI mock-up 
but first I have to find yet another library ^^ Why didn't I study 
economics like my father told me :P




On Sunday, 17 January 2016 02:47:24 UTC+1, Alain wrote:
>
> We have an old unmaintained wrapper for Qooxdoo but we dropped it to go 
> with Ext JS.
> Maybe you can write a wrapper. The community will appreciate I m sure :)
>
> Well I heard that GWT 3 will drop support for Widget so maybe it s not 
> that bad to not extend widget.
>
> Are you trying to build a webdesktop ? 
> Then Sencha really has the best foundament for that imho.
>
> To be honest I dont know what to use. 
>
> I heard GXT 4 doest even offer a GPL version. 
>
>
>
>
> On 17 January 2016 at 02:37, Stefan Falk <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I missed that Browser Desktop showcase of qooxdoo. There's indeed 
>> a lot but it's pure JavaScript, right? ^^
>>
>> I've just tried Vaadin. It appears that a Vaadin-Button is not a Widget? 
>> Why would such a basic UI element not implement the Widget interface? O_o
>>
>> :D I guess most people chose GWT because they don't like JavaScript 
>> right? :D
>>
>> GXT (or Sencha) does look good, indeed. But the prices are sky high.. 
>>
>> Hm, I am sure 1 hour is not enough to evaluate even one of those 
>> frameworks but if qooxdoo is pure JavaScript and Vaadin is not implementing 
>> vanilla GWT interfaces, what's left besides a quite expensive GXT? :/
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 01:52:30 UTC+1, Alain wrote:
>>>
>>> What are you looking for tha you could not find in qooxdoo ? 
>>> Did you look at vaadin ? I think the lasts versions dont require a 
>>> server for the UI
>>>
>>> We dont like JavaScript either.
>>> So we have a Java wrapper for Ext JS. http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/
>>>
>>> Also did you have a look at GXT ? 
>>>
>>> or maybe GWT-Polymer (https://github.com/vaadin/gwt-polymer-elements)
>>> or GWT-Material ? (http://gwt-material-demo.herokuapp.com/)
>>>
>>> There is another one I think I forgot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 January 2016 at 01:46, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> qooxdoo looks indeed not bad but their showcase does not provide a lot 
>>>> of examples unfortunately (compared to others).
>>>>
>>>> I can't afford expensive libraries unfortunately and like you both 
>>>> already pointed out it is a little unfortunate for startups. Not sure if 
>>>> one could say that I already have a startup but I try to start up a 
>>>> startup 
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> It is really hard to tell what would make me happy. I'd of course 
>>>> prefer anything that is not a pain to get along with GWT vanilla. So 
>>>> jQWidgets won't be my favorite then. 
>>>>
>>>> And I am afraid that Ext JS isn't something for me either. The whole 
>>>> point for me to go with GWT was because I just don't like JavaScript - no 
>>>> offence here ^^ 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 00:09:14 UTC+1, Alain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I like http://qooxdoo.org/demos too.
>>>>> Free looks nice and easy to port to GWT
>>>>>
>>>>> Well we had a look a jQWidgets Try to port that API to GWT. 
>>>>> I tell you it s not fun
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes Ext JS is expensive. But for what it brings on the table it s 
>>>>> worth it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not everyone Google and can give stuff away for free.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 23:50, Blake McBride <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The minimum price for a limited version of ExtJS is now $4,475.  No 
>>>>>> non-commercial, free version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Checkout jQWidgets.  It's free for non-commercial use, reasonable for 
>>>>>> commercial use, and looks really good!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blake McBride  (I have no affiliation with either.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Alain Ekambi <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never used Vaadin but i heard their widget work client side too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Smart GWT is a wrapper around the smart client js library. It s nice 
>>>>>>> but i heard it does not play well with GWT widgets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We created our own library on top ext Ext JS called Ext4j. It s free 
>>>>>>> to use but Ext JS is commercial.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you ask me i would say go with Ext JS they   have the best widget 
>>>>>>> set really.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 20:55, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, I've found this stackoverflow question here [1] which appears 
>>>>>>>> to be quite outdated.
>>>>>>>> I am not quite sure which library to use because I can't really 
>>>>>>>> find some more recent comparisons. 
>>>>>>>> A lot of people tend to say "don't use any of those libraries, just 
>>>>>>>> use the MVP pattern instead" which sounds kind of strange to me 
>>>>>>>> because how 
>>>>>>>> does the MVP pattern satisfy all my Widget-Needs? ^^
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've seen there is a LGPL licence for SmartGWT but I am not sure: 
>>>>>>>> Is SmartGWT a replacement for GWT or is it just a library I can use 
>>>>>>>> withing 
>>>>>>>> GWT applications?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regarding Vaadin: It seems this library runs on the server. I don't 
>>>>>>>> think this is suitable for me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It appears that there is a lot of stuff out there and I am already 
>>>>>>>> stuck in another framework hell. 
>>>>>>>> So are there any sources where I can get informed or can somebody 
>>>>>>>> recommend me reliable library that won't send me into hell's kitchen?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BR; Stefan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 16 January 2016 01:04:02 UTC+1, Alain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vaadin (https://vaadin.com/home)
>>>>>>>>> GXT(https://www.sencha.com/products/gxt/)
>>>>>>>>> GWT Bootstap (http://gwtbootstrap3.github.io/gwtbootstrap3-demo/)
>>>>>>>>> Ext4j (http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/) : Disclaimer I created 
>>>>>>>>> the library
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See there a lot of choice :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 15 January 2016 at 17:23, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am looking for a GWT Widget Library with basic desktop-like 
>>>>>>>>>> elements like Smart GWT [1]? 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Smart GWT is not really cheap. Is there a library 
>>>>>>>>>> that you can recommend me?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards and thank you for any hints.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   [1]: http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#main
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