I feel you :) Actually we are building a reusable webdesktop component. We build in from the ground and will license it to others. You can see an early (very old) demo here : desk.ahome-it.com
But again it s based on Ext JS If you can afford your app beeing GPL you can use it :) On 17 January 2016 at 03:13, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: > My brain hurts.. there's just so much. That GWT-Material library looks > awesome but it appears to focus on mobile apps and tablets. > > What I am currently writing at is a administration tool for, let's say > store owners that will be able to maintain multiple stores and different > offers. > > It's nothing too complex I guess but I intent to create a desktop-like > app. What I've seen so far from Smart GWT or Sencha would indeed provide > everything I need. > > I've been focusing a lot on server side things the last few months > implementing the database, learning first Hibernate then jOOQ and all the > Spring and Spring Security stuff etc. > > Now I am finally at the point where I could start to create a UI mock-up > but first I have to find yet another library ^^ Why didn't I study > economics like my father told me :P > > > > > On Sunday, 17 January 2016 02:47:24 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >> >> We have an old unmaintained wrapper for Qooxdoo but we dropped it to go >> with Ext JS. >> Maybe you can write a wrapper. The community will appreciate I m sure :) >> >> Well I heard that GWT 3 will drop support for Widget so maybe it s not >> that bad to not extend widget. >> >> Are you trying to build a webdesktop ? >> Then Sencha really has the best foundament for that imho. >> >> To be honest I dont know what to use. >> >> I heard GXT 4 doest even offer a GPL version. >> >> >> >> >> On 17 January 2016 at 02:37, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sorry, I missed that Browser Desktop showcase of qooxdoo. There's indeed >>> a lot but it's pure JavaScript, right? ^^ >>> >>> I've just tried Vaadin. It appears that a Vaadin-Button is not a Widget? >>> Why would such a basic UI element not implement the Widget interface? O_o >>> >>> :D I guess most people chose GWT because they don't like JavaScript >>> right? :D >>> >>> GXT (or Sencha) does look good, indeed. But the prices are sky high.. >>> >>> Hm, I am sure 1 hour is not enough to evaluate even one of those >>> frameworks but if qooxdoo is pure JavaScript and Vaadin is not implementing >>> vanilla GWT interfaces, what's left besides a quite expensive GXT? :/ >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 01:52:30 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>> >>>> What are you looking for tha you could not find in qooxdoo ? >>>> Did you look at vaadin ? I think the lasts versions dont require a >>>> server for the UI >>>> >>>> We dont like JavaScript either. >>>> So we have a Java wrapper for Ext JS. http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/ >>>> >>>> Also did you have a look at GXT ? >>>> >>>> or maybe GWT-Polymer (https://github.com/vaadin/gwt-polymer-elements) >>>> or GWT-Material ? (http://gwt-material-demo.herokuapp.com/) >>>> >>>> There is another one I think I forgot. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17 January 2016 at 01:46, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> qooxdoo looks indeed not bad but their showcase does not provide a lot >>>>> of examples unfortunately (compared to others). >>>>> >>>>> I can't afford expensive libraries unfortunately and like you both >>>>> already pointed out it is a little unfortunate for startups. Not sure if >>>>> one could say that I already have a startup but I try to start up a >>>>> startup >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> It is really hard to tell what would make me happy. I'd of course >>>>> prefer anything that is not a pain to get along with GWT vanilla. So >>>>> jQWidgets won't be my favorite then. >>>>> >>>>> And I am afraid that Ext JS isn't something for me either. The whole >>>>> point for me to go with GWT was because I just don't like JavaScript - no >>>>> offence here ^^ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 00:09:14 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually I like http://qooxdoo.org/demos too. >>>>>> Free looks nice and easy to port to GWT >>>>>> >>>>>> Well we had a look a jQWidgets Try to port that API to GWT. >>>>>> I tell you it s not fun >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes Ext JS is expensive. But for what it brings on the table it s >>>>>> worth it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not everyone Google and can give stuff away for free. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 23:50, Blake McBride <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The minimum price for a limited version of ExtJS is now $4,475. No >>>>>>> non-commercial, free version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Checkout jQWidgets. It's free for non-commercial use, reasonable >>>>>>> for commercial use, and looks really good! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blake McBride (I have no affiliation with either.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Alain Ekambi <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never used Vaadin but i heard their widget work client side too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Smart GWT is a wrapper around the smart client js library. It s >>>>>>>> nice but i heard it does not play well with GWT widgets. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We created our own library on top ext Ext JS called Ext4j. It s >>>>>>>> free to use but Ext JS is commercial. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you ask me i would say go with Ext JS they have the best >>>>>>>> widget set really. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 20:55, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, I've found this stackoverflow question here [1] which >>>>>>>>> appears to be quite outdated. >>>>>>>>> I am not quite sure which library to use because I can't really >>>>>>>>> find some more recent comparisons. >>>>>>>>> A lot of people tend to say "don't use any of those libraries, >>>>>>>>> just use the MVP pattern instead" which sounds kind of strange to me >>>>>>>>> because how does the MVP pattern satisfy all my Widget-Needs? ^^ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've seen there is a LGPL licence for SmartGWT but I am not sure: >>>>>>>>> Is SmartGWT a replacement for GWT or is it just a library I can use >>>>>>>>> withing >>>>>>>>> GWT applications? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regarding Vaadin: It seems this library runs on the server. I >>>>>>>>> don't think this is suitable for me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It appears that there is a lot of stuff out there and I am already >>>>>>>>> stuck in another framework hell. >>>>>>>>> So are there any sources where I can get informed or can somebody >>>>>>>>> recommend me reliable library that won't send me into hell's kitchen? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> BR; Stefan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 16 January 2016 01:04:02 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Vaadin (https://vaadin.com/home) >>>>>>>>>> GXT(https://www.sencha.com/products/gxt/) >>>>>>>>>> GWT Bootstap (http://gwtbootstrap3.github.io/gwtbootstrap3-demo/) >>>>>>>>>> Ext4j (http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/) : Disclaimer I created >>>>>>>>>> the library >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> See there a lot of choice :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 15 January 2016 at 17:23, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am looking for a GWT Widget Library with basic desktop-like >>>>>>>>>>> elements like Smart GWT [1]? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Smart GWT is not really cheap. Is there a library >>>>>>>>>>> that you can recommend me? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards and thank you for any hints. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Stefan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [1]: http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#main >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "GWT Users" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Alain Ekambi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Co-Founder >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ahomé Innovation Technologies >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ahome-it.com/ <http://ahome-it.com/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "GWT Users" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alain Ekambi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Co-Founder >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ahomé Innovation Technologies >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.ahome-it.com/ <http://ahome-it.com/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "GWT Users" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "GWT Users" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Alain Ekambi >>>>>> >>>>>> Co-Founder >>>>>> >>>>>> Ahomé Innovation Technologies >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ahome-it.com/ <http://ahome-it.com/> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "GWT Users" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Alain Ekambi >>>> >>>> Co-Founder >>>> >>>> Ahomé Innovation Technologies >>>> >>>> http://www.ahome-it.com/ <http://ahome-it.com/> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "GWT Users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Alain Ekambi >> >> Co-Founder >> >> Ahomé Innovation Technologies >> >> http://www.ahome-it.com/ <http://ahome-it.com/> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "GWT Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Alain Ekambi Co-Founder Ahomé Innovation Technologies http://www.ahome-it.com/ <http://ahome-it.com/> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GWT Users" group. 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