Sorry, I missed that Browser Desktop showcase of qooxdoo. There's indeed a 
lot but it's pure JavaScript, right? ^^

I've just tried Vaadin. It appears that a Vaadin-Button is not a Widget? 
Why would such a basic UI element not implement the Widget interface? O_o

:D I guess most people chose GWT because they don't like JavaScript right? 
:D

GXT (or Sencha) does look good, indeed. But the prices are sky high.. 

Hm, I am sure 1 hour is not enough to evaluate even one of those frameworks 
but if qooxdoo is pure JavaScript and Vaadin is not implementing vanilla 
GWT interfaces, what's left besides a quite expensive GXT? :/


On Sunday, 17 January 2016 01:52:30 UTC+1, Alain wrote:
>
> What are you looking for tha you could not find in qooxdoo ? 
> Did you look at vaadin ? I think the lasts versions dont require a server 
> for the UI
>
> We dont like JavaScript either.
> So we have a Java wrapper for Ext JS. http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/
>
> Also did you have a look at GXT ? 
>
> or maybe GWT-Polymer (https://github.com/vaadin/gwt-polymer-elements)
> or GWT-Material ? (http://gwt-material-demo.herokuapp.com/)
>
> There is another one I think I forgot.
>
>
>
> On 17 January 2016 at 01:46, Stefan Falk <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> qooxdoo looks indeed not bad but their showcase does not provide a lot of 
>> examples unfortunately (compared to others).
>>
>> I can't afford expensive libraries unfortunately and like you both 
>> already pointed out it is a little unfortunate for startups. Not sure if 
>> one could say that I already have a startup but I try to start up a startup 
>> :)
>>
>> It is really hard to tell what would make me happy. I'd of course prefer 
>> anything that is not a pain to get along with GWT vanilla. So jQWidgets 
>> won't be my favorite then. 
>>
>> And I am afraid that Ext JS isn't something for me either. The whole 
>> point for me to go with GWT was because I just don't like JavaScript - no 
>> offence here ^^ 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 00:09:14 UTC+1, Alain wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually I like http://qooxdoo.org/demos too.
>>> Free looks nice and easy to port to GWT
>>>
>>> Well we had a look a jQWidgets Try to port that API to GWT. 
>>> I tell you it s not fun
>>>
>>> Yes Ext JS is expensive. But for what it brings on the table it s worth 
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Not everyone Google and can give stuff away for free.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 January 2016 at 23:50, Blake McBride <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The minimum price for a limited version of ExtJS is now $4,475.  No 
>>>> non-commercial, free version.
>>>>
>>>> Checkout jQWidgets.  It's free for non-commercial use, reasonable for 
>>>> commercial use, and looks really good!
>>>>
>>>> Blake McBride  (I have no affiliation with either.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Alain Ekambi <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Never used Vaadin but i heard their widget work client side too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Smart GWT is a wrapper around the smart client js library. It s nice 
>>>>> but i heard it does not play well with GWT widgets.
>>>>>
>>>>> We created our own library on top ext Ext JS called Ext4j. It s free 
>>>>> to use but Ext JS is commercial.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you ask me i would say go with Ext JS they   have the best widget 
>>>>> set really.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 20:55, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I've found this stackoverflow question here [1] which appears 
>>>>>> to be quite outdated.
>>>>>> I am not quite sure which library to use because I can't really find 
>>>>>> some more recent comparisons. 
>>>>>> A lot of people tend to say "don't use any of those libraries, just 
>>>>>> use the MVP pattern instead" which sounds kind of strange to me because 
>>>>>> how 
>>>>>> does the MVP pattern satisfy all my Widget-Needs? ^^
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen there is a LGPL licence for SmartGWT but I am not sure: Is 
>>>>>> SmartGWT a replacement for GWT or is it just a library I can use withing 
>>>>>> GWT applications?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding Vaadin: It seems this library runs on the server. I don't 
>>>>>> think this is suitable for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears that there is a lot of stuff out there and I am already 
>>>>>> stuck in another framework hell. 
>>>>>> So are there any sources where I can get informed or can somebody 
>>>>>> recommend me reliable library that won't send me into hell's kitchen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BR; Stefan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, 16 January 2016 01:04:02 UTC+1, Alain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vaadin (https://vaadin.com/home)
>>>>>>> GXT(https://www.sencha.com/products/gxt/)
>>>>>>> GWT Bootstap (http://gwtbootstrap3.github.io/gwtbootstrap3-demo/)
>>>>>>> Ext4j (http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/) : Disclaimer I created the 
>>>>>>> library
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See there a lot of choice :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 January 2016 at 17:23, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am looking for a GWT Widget Library with basic desktop-like 
>>>>>>>> elements like Smart GWT [1]? 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Smart GWT is not really cheap. Is there a library 
>>>>>>>> that you can recommend me?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards and thank you for any hints.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   [1]: http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#main
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