Thanks :) "That is almost too desktop-like for my needs". LOL. It will be fully customizable. You can add remove stuff as needed. And fully opensourced :)
I never used Smart GWT so I can really help there. Sorry :) On 17 January 2016 at 04:02, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow, that looks quite impressive! That is almost too desktop-like for my > needs, I didn't mean an actual desktop :P > > Well, I think I will have to spent more time on that and take a closer > look at each of those libraries. > When I started searching I thought I will just add a new dependency to my > pom.xml and I am ready to go but nah .. > > It seems that I will install each of those libs and try out a few things.. > > I am not sure if you can help me with that but do you have a clue why I am > getting this error: [1] > I tried to make Smart GWT work earlier that day but I couldn't find out > what the problem might be here. > > However, thank you for your help and advice! I'll read through all of it > again tomorrow but it's 4 am her in Austria and I think I should > go to bed anytime soon :D > > [1] > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34831911/trying-to-use-smartgwt-but-getting-errors-cannot-read-property-setautodraw-o > > > On Sunday, 17 January 2016 03:20:14 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >> >> I feel you :) >> Actually we are building a reusable webdesktop component. We build in >> from the ground and will license it to others. >> You can see an early (very old) demo here : desk.ahome-it.com >> >> But again it s based on Ext JS >> >> If you can afford your app beeing GPL you can use it :) >> >> >> >> On 17 January 2016 at 03:13, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> My brain hurts.. there's just so much. That GWT-Material library looks >>> awesome but it appears to focus on mobile apps and tablets. >>> >>> What I am currently writing at is a administration tool for, let's say >>> store owners that will be able to maintain multiple stores and different >>> offers. >>> >>> It's nothing too complex I guess but I intent to create a desktop-like >>> app. What I've seen so far from Smart GWT or Sencha would indeed provide >>> everything I need. >>> >>> I've been focusing a lot on server side things the last few months >>> implementing the database, learning first Hibernate then jOOQ and all the >>> Spring and Spring Security stuff etc. >>> >>> Now I am finally at the point where I could start to create a UI mock-up >>> but first I have to find yet another library ^^ Why didn't I study >>> economics like my father told me :P >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 02:47:24 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>> >>>> We have an old unmaintained wrapper for Qooxdoo but we dropped it to go >>>> with Ext JS. >>>> Maybe you can write a wrapper. The community will appreciate I m sure :) >>>> >>>> Well I heard that GWT 3 will drop support for Widget so maybe it s not >>>> that bad to not extend widget. >>>> >>>> Are you trying to build a webdesktop ? >>>> Then Sencha really has the best foundament for that imho. >>>> >>>> To be honest I dont know what to use. >>>> >>>> I heard GXT 4 doest even offer a GPL version. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17 January 2016 at 02:37, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry, I missed that Browser Desktop showcase of qooxdoo. There's >>>>> indeed a lot but it's pure JavaScript, right? ^^ >>>>> >>>>> I've just tried Vaadin. It appears that a Vaadin-Button is not a >>>>> Widget? Why would such a basic UI element not implement the Widget >>>>> interface? O_o >>>>> >>>>> :D I guess most people chose GWT because they don't like JavaScript >>>>> right? :D >>>>> >>>>> GXT (or Sencha) does look good, indeed. But the prices are sky high.. >>>>> >>>>> Hm, I am sure 1 hour is not enough to evaluate even one of those >>>>> frameworks but if qooxdoo is pure JavaScript and Vaadin is not >>>>> implementing >>>>> vanilla GWT interfaces, what's left besides a quite expensive GXT? :/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 01:52:30 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What are you looking for tha you could not find in qooxdoo ? >>>>>> Did you look at vaadin ? I think the lasts versions dont require a >>>>>> server for the UI >>>>>> >>>>>> We dont like JavaScript either. >>>>>> So we have a Java wrapper for Ext JS. >>>>>> http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Also did you have a look at GXT ? >>>>>> >>>>>> or maybe GWT-Polymer (https://github.com/vaadin/gwt-polymer-elements) >>>>>> or GWT-Material ? (http://gwt-material-demo.herokuapp.com/) >>>>>> >>>>>> There is another one I think I forgot. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17 January 2016 at 01:46, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> qooxdoo looks indeed not bad but their showcase does not provide a >>>>>>> lot of examples unfortunately (compared to others). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can't afford expensive libraries unfortunately and like you both >>>>>>> already pointed out it is a little unfortunate for startups. Not sure if >>>>>>> one could say that I already have a startup but I try to start up a >>>>>>> startup >>>>>>> :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is really hard to tell what would make me happy. I'd of course >>>>>>> prefer anything that is not a pain to get along with GWT vanilla. So >>>>>>> jQWidgets won't be my favorite then. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And I am afraid that Ext JS isn't something for me either. The whole >>>>>>> point for me to go with GWT was because I just don't like JavaScript - >>>>>>> no >>>>>>> offence here ^^ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 00:09:14 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Actually I like http://qooxdoo.org/demos too. >>>>>>>> Free looks nice and easy to port to GWT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well we had a look a jQWidgets Try to port that API to GWT. >>>>>>>> I tell you it s not fun >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes Ext JS is expensive. But for what it brings on the table it s >>>>>>>> worth it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not everyone Google and can give stuff away for free. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 23:50, Blake McBride <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The minimum price for a limited version of ExtJS is now $4,475. >>>>>>>>> No non-commercial, free version. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Checkout jQWidgets. It's free for non-commercial use, reasonable >>>>>>>>> for commercial use, and looks really good! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blake McBride (I have no affiliation with either.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Alain Ekambi <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Never used Vaadin but i heard their widget work client side too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Smart GWT is a wrapper around the smart client js library. It s >>>>>>>>>> nice but i heard it does not play well with GWT widgets. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We created our own library on top ext Ext JS called Ext4j. It s >>>>>>>>>> free to use but Ext JS is commercial. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you ask me i would say go with Ext JS they have the best >>>>>>>>>> widget set really. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 20:55, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, I've found this stackoverflow question here [1] which >>>>>>>>>>> appears to be quite outdated. >>>>>>>>>>> I am not quite sure which library to use because I can't really >>>>>>>>>>> find some more recent comparisons. >>>>>>>>>>> A lot of people tend to say "don't use any of those libraries, >>>>>>>>>>> just use the MVP pattern instead" which sounds kind of strange to me >>>>>>>>>>> because how does the MVP pattern satisfy all my Widget-Needs? ^^ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've seen there is a LGPL licence for SmartGWT but I am not >>>>>>>>>>> sure: Is SmartGWT a replacement for GWT or is it just a library I >>>>>>>>>>> can use >>>>>>>>>>> withing GWT applications? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regarding Vaadin: It seems this library runs on the server. I >>>>>>>>>>> don't think this is suitable for me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It appears that there is a lot of stuff out there and I am >>>>>>>>>>> already stuck in another framework hell. >>>>>>>>>>> So are there any sources where I can get informed or can >>>>>>>>>>> somebody recommend me reliable library that won't send me into >>>>>>>>>>> hell's >>>>>>>>>>> kitchen? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> BR; Stefan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 16 January 2016 01:04:02 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Vaadin (https://vaadin.com/home) >>>>>>>>>>>> GXT(https://www.sencha.com/products/gxt/) >>>>>>>>>>>> GWT Bootstap ( >>>>>>>>>>>> http://gwtbootstrap3.github.io/gwtbootstrap3-demo/) >>>>>>>>>>>> Ext4j (http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/) : Disclaimer I >>>>>>>>>>>> created the library >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> See there a lot of choice :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 January 2016 at 17:23, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am looking for a GWT Widget Library with basic desktop-like >>>>>>>>>>>>> elements like Smart GWT [1]? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Smart GWT is not really cheap. Is there a >>>>>>>>>>>>> library that you can recommend me? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards and thank you for any hints. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]: http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#main >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "GWT Users" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alain Ekambi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Founder >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ahomé Innovation 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