No worries I took it like a compliment. :) :) :) . Thx a lot. On 17 Jan 2016 10:54, "Stefan Falk" <[email protected]> wrote:
> :D Yeah, I am sure you can customize it. The phrase "too desktop-like" was > intended to be some kine of compliment :P > > On Sunday, 17 January 2016 04:10:52 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >> >> Thanks :) >> >> "That is almost too desktop-like for my needs". LOL. It will be fully >> customizable. >> You can add remove stuff as needed. And fully opensourced :) >> >> I never used Smart GWT so I can really help there. >> >> Sorry :) >> >> On 17 January 2016 at 04:02, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Wow, that looks quite impressive! That is almost too desktop-like for my >>> needs, I didn't mean an actual desktop :P >>> >>> Well, I think I will have to spent more time on that and take a closer >>> look at each of those libraries. >>> When I started searching I thought I will just add a new dependency to >>> my pom.xml and I am ready to go but nah .. >>> >>> It seems that I will install each of those libs and try out a few >>> things.. >>> >>> I am not sure if you can help me with that but do you have a clue why I >>> am getting this error: [1] >>> I tried to make Smart GWT work earlier that day but I couldn't find out >>> what the problem might be here. >>> >>> However, thank you for your help and advice! I'll read through all of it >>> again tomorrow but it's 4 am her in Austria and I think I should >>> go to bed anytime soon :D >>> >>> [1] >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34831911/trying-to-use-smartgwt-but-getting-errors-cannot-read-property-setautodraw-o >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 03:20:14 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>> >>>> I feel you :) >>>> Actually we are building a reusable webdesktop component. We build in >>>> from the ground and will license it to others. >>>> You can see an early (very old) demo here : desk.ahome-it.com >>>> >>>> But again it s based on Ext JS >>>> >>>> If you can afford your app beeing GPL you can use it :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17 January 2016 at 03:13, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My brain hurts.. there's just so much. That GWT-Material library looks >>>>> awesome but it appears to focus on mobile apps and tablets. >>>>> >>>>> What I am currently writing at is a administration tool for, let's say >>>>> store owners that will be able to maintain multiple stores and different >>>>> offers. >>>>> >>>>> It's nothing too complex I guess but I intent to create a desktop-like >>>>> app. What I've seen so far from Smart GWT or Sencha would indeed provide >>>>> everything I need. >>>>> >>>>> I've been focusing a lot on server side things the last few months >>>>> implementing the database, learning first Hibernate then jOOQ and all the >>>>> Spring and Spring Security stuff etc. >>>>> >>>>> Now I am finally at the point where I could start to create a UI >>>>> mock-up but first I have to find yet another library ^^ Why didn't I study >>>>> economics like my father told me :P >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 02:47:24 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We have an old unmaintained wrapper for Qooxdoo but we dropped it to >>>>>> go with Ext JS. >>>>>> Maybe you can write a wrapper. The community will appreciate I m sure >>>>>> :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Well I heard that GWT 3 will drop support for Widget so maybe it s >>>>>> not that bad to not extend widget. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you trying to build a webdesktop ? >>>>>> Then Sencha really has the best foundament for that imho. >>>>>> >>>>>> To be honest I dont know what to use. >>>>>> >>>>>> I heard GXT 4 doest even offer a GPL version. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17 January 2016 at 02:37, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, I missed that Browser Desktop showcase of qooxdoo. There's >>>>>>> indeed a lot but it's pure JavaScript, right? ^^ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've just tried Vaadin. It appears that a Vaadin-Button is not a >>>>>>> Widget? Why would such a basic UI element not implement the Widget >>>>>>> interface? O_o >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :D I guess most people chose GWT because they don't like JavaScript >>>>>>> right? :D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GXT (or Sencha) does look good, indeed. But the prices are sky >>>>>>> high.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hm, I am sure 1 hour is not enough to evaluate even one of those >>>>>>> frameworks but if qooxdoo is pure JavaScript and Vaadin is not >>>>>>> implementing >>>>>>> vanilla GWT interfaces, what's left besides a quite expensive GXT? :/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 01:52:30 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What are you looking for tha you could not find in qooxdoo ? >>>>>>>> Did you look at vaadin ? I think the lasts versions dont require a >>>>>>>> server for the UI >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We dont like JavaScript either. >>>>>>>> So we have a Java wrapper for Ext JS. >>>>>>>> http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also did you have a look at GXT ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or maybe GWT-Polymer ( >>>>>>>> https://github.com/vaadin/gwt-polymer-elements) >>>>>>>> or GWT-Material ? (http://gwt-material-demo.herokuapp.com/) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is another one I think I forgot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 January 2016 at 01:46, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> qooxdoo looks indeed not bad but their showcase does not provide a >>>>>>>>> lot of examples unfortunately (compared to others). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can't afford expensive libraries unfortunately and like you both >>>>>>>>> already pointed out it is a little unfortunate for startups. Not sure >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> one could say that I already have a startup but I try to start up a >>>>>>>>> startup >>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is really hard to tell what would make me happy. I'd of course >>>>>>>>> prefer anything that is not a pain to get along with GWT vanilla. So >>>>>>>>> jQWidgets won't be my favorite then. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And I am afraid that Ext JS isn't something for me either. The >>>>>>>>> whole point for me to go with GWT was because I just don't like >>>>>>>>> JavaScript >>>>>>>>> - no offence here ^^ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 00:09:14 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Actually I like http://qooxdoo.org/demos too. >>>>>>>>>> Free looks nice and easy to port to GWT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well we had a look a jQWidgets Try to port that API to GWT. >>>>>>>>>> I tell you it s not fun >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes Ext JS is expensive. But for what it brings on the table it s >>>>>>>>>> worth it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not everyone Google and can give stuff away for free. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 23:50, Blake McBride <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The minimum price for a limited version of ExtJS is now $4,475. >>>>>>>>>>> No non-commercial, free version. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Checkout jQWidgets. It's free for non-commercial use, >>>>>>>>>>> reasonable for commercial use, and looks really good! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Blake McBride (I have no affiliation with either.) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Alain Ekambi < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Never used Vaadin but i heard their widget work client side too. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Smart GWT is a wrapper around the smart client js library. It s >>>>>>>>>>>> nice but i heard it does not play well with GWT widgets. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We created our own library on top ext Ext JS called Ext4j. It s >>>>>>>>>>>> free to use but Ext JS is commercial. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you ask me i would say go with Ext JS they have the best >>>>>>>>>>>> widget set really. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 20:55, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I've found this stackoverflow question here [1] which >>>>>>>>>>>>> appears to be quite outdated. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not quite sure which library to use because I can't >>>>>>>>>>>>> really find some more recent comparisons. >>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of people tend to say "don't use any of those libraries, >>>>>>>>>>>>> just use the MVP pattern instead" which sounds kind of strange to >>>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>> because how does the MVP pattern satisfy all my Widget-Needs? ^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen there is a LGPL licence for SmartGWT but I am not >>>>>>>>>>>>> sure: Is SmartGWT a replacement for GWT or is it just a library I >>>>>>>>>>>>> can use >>>>>>>>>>>>> withing GWT applications? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding Vaadin: It seems this library runs on the server. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think this is suitable for me. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that there is a lot of stuff out there and I am >>>>>>>>>>>>> already stuck in another framework hell. >>>>>>>>>>>>> So are there any sources where I can get informed or can >>>>>>>>>>>>> somebody recommend me reliable library that won't send me into >>>>>>>>>>>>> hell's >>>>>>>>>>>>> kitchen? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> BR; Stefan >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 16 January 2016 01:04:02 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vaadin (https://vaadin.com/home) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> GXT(https://www.sencha.com/products/gxt/) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> GWT Bootstap ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gwtbootstrap3.github.io/gwtbootstrap3-demo/) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ext4j (http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/) : Disclaimer I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created the library >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> See there a lot of choice :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 January 2016 at 17:23, Stefan Falk <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am looking for a GWT Widget Library with basic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop-like elements like Smart GWT [1]? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Smart GWT is not really cheap. Is there a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library that you can recommend me? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards and thank you for any hints. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]: http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#main >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "GWT Users" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alain Ekambi >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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