:D Yeah, I am sure you can customize it. The phrase "too desktop-like" was intended to be some kine of compliment :P
On Sunday, 17 January 2016 04:10:52 UTC+1, Alain wrote: > > Thanks :) > > "That is almost too desktop-like for my needs". LOL. It will be fully > customizable. > You can add remove stuff as needed. And fully opensourced :) > > I never used Smart GWT so I can really help there. > > Sorry :) > > On 17 January 2016 at 04:02, Stefan Falk <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Wow, that looks quite impressive! That is almost too desktop-like for my >> needs, I didn't mean an actual desktop :P >> >> Well, I think I will have to spent more time on that and take a closer >> look at each of those libraries. >> When I started searching I thought I will just add a new dependency to my >> pom.xml and I am ready to go but nah .. >> >> It seems that I will install each of those libs and try out a few things.. >> >> I am not sure if you can help me with that but do you have a clue why I >> am getting this error: [1] >> I tried to make Smart GWT work earlier that day but I couldn't find out >> what the problem might be here. >> >> However, thank you for your help and advice! I'll read through all of it >> again tomorrow but it's 4 am her in Austria and I think I should >> go to bed anytime soon :D >> >> [1] >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34831911/trying-to-use-smartgwt-but-getting-errors-cannot-read-property-setautodraw-o >> >> >> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 03:20:14 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>> >>> I feel you :) >>> Actually we are building a reusable webdesktop component. We build in >>> from the ground and will license it to others. >>> You can see an early (very old) demo here : desk.ahome-it.com >>> >>> But again it s based on Ext JS >>> >>> If you can afford your app beeing GPL you can use it :) >>> >>> >>> >>> On 17 January 2016 at 03:13, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> My brain hurts.. there's just so much. That GWT-Material library looks >>>> awesome but it appears to focus on mobile apps and tablets. >>>> >>>> What I am currently writing at is a administration tool for, let's say >>>> store owners that will be able to maintain multiple stores and different >>>> offers. >>>> >>>> It's nothing too complex I guess but I intent to create a desktop-like >>>> app. What I've seen so far from Smart GWT or Sencha would indeed provide >>>> everything I need. >>>> >>>> I've been focusing a lot on server side things the last few months >>>> implementing the database, learning first Hibernate then jOOQ and all the >>>> Spring and Spring Security stuff etc. >>>> >>>> Now I am finally at the point where I could start to create a UI >>>> mock-up but first I have to find yet another library ^^ Why didn't I study >>>> economics like my father told me :P >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 02:47:24 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We have an old unmaintained wrapper for Qooxdoo but we dropped it to >>>>> go with Ext JS. >>>>> Maybe you can write a wrapper. The community will appreciate I m sure >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> Well I heard that GWT 3 will drop support for Widget so maybe it s not >>>>> that bad to not extend widget. >>>>> >>>>> Are you trying to build a webdesktop ? >>>>> Then Sencha really has the best foundament for that imho. >>>>> >>>>> To be honest I dont know what to use. >>>>> >>>>> I heard GXT 4 doest even offer a GPL version. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 17 January 2016 at 02:37, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, I missed that Browser Desktop showcase of qooxdoo. There's >>>>>> indeed a lot but it's pure JavaScript, right? ^^ >>>>>> >>>>>> I've just tried Vaadin. It appears that a Vaadin-Button is not a >>>>>> Widget? Why would such a basic UI element not implement the Widget >>>>>> interface? O_o >>>>>> >>>>>> :D I guess most people chose GWT because they don't like JavaScript >>>>>> right? :D >>>>>> >>>>>> GXT (or Sencha) does look good, indeed. But the prices are sky high.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hm, I am sure 1 hour is not enough to evaluate even one of those >>>>>> frameworks but if qooxdoo is pure JavaScript and Vaadin is not >>>>>> implementing >>>>>> vanilla GWT interfaces, what's left besides a quite expensive GXT? :/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 01:52:30 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are you looking for tha you could not find in qooxdoo ? >>>>>>> Did you look at vaadin ? I think the lasts versions dont require a >>>>>>> server for the UI >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We dont like JavaScript either. >>>>>>> So we have a Java wrapper for Ext JS. >>>>>>> http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also did you have a look at GXT ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or maybe GWT-Polymer (https://github.com/vaadin/gwt-polymer-elements >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> or GWT-Material ? (http://gwt-material-demo.herokuapp.com/) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is another one I think I forgot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 17 January 2016 at 01:46, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> qooxdoo looks indeed not bad but their showcase does not provide a >>>>>>>> lot of examples unfortunately (compared to others). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can't afford expensive libraries unfortunately and like you both >>>>>>>> already pointed out it is a little unfortunate for startups. Not sure >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> one could say that I already have a startup but I try to start up a >>>>>>>> startup >>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is really hard to tell what would make me happy. I'd of course >>>>>>>> prefer anything that is not a pain to get along with GWT vanilla. So >>>>>>>> jQWidgets won't be my favorite then. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And I am afraid that Ext JS isn't something for me either. The >>>>>>>> whole point for me to go with GWT was because I just don't like >>>>>>>> JavaScript >>>>>>>> - no offence here ^^ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, 17 January 2016 00:09:14 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Actually I like http://qooxdoo.org/demos too. >>>>>>>>> Free looks nice and easy to port to GWT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well we had a look a jQWidgets Try to port that API to GWT. >>>>>>>>> I tell you it s not fun >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes Ext JS is expensive. But for what it brings on the table it s >>>>>>>>> worth it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not everyone Google and can give stuff away for free. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 23:50, Blake McBride <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The minimum price for a limited version of ExtJS is now $4,475. >>>>>>>>>> No non-commercial, free version. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Checkout jQWidgets. It's free for non-commercial use, reasonable >>>>>>>>>> for commercial use, and looks really good! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blake McBride (I have no affiliation with either.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Alain Ekambi < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Never used Vaadin but i heard their widget work client side too. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Smart GWT is a wrapper around the smart client js library. It s >>>>>>>>>>> nice but i heard it does not play well with GWT widgets. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We created our own library on top ext Ext JS called Ext4j. It s >>>>>>>>>>> free to use but Ext JS is commercial. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you ask me i would say go with Ext JS they have the best >>>>>>>>>>> widget set really. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 16 January 2016 at 20:55, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I've found this stackoverflow question here [1] which >>>>>>>>>>>> appears to be quite outdated. >>>>>>>>>>>> I am not quite sure which library to use because I can't really >>>>>>>>>>>> find some more recent comparisons. >>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of people tend to say "don't use any of those libraries, >>>>>>>>>>>> just use the MVP pattern instead" which sounds kind of strange to >>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>> because how does the MVP pattern satisfy all my Widget-Needs? ^^ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen there is a LGPL licence for SmartGWT but I am not >>>>>>>>>>>> sure: Is SmartGWT a replacement for GWT or is it just a library I >>>>>>>>>>>> can use >>>>>>>>>>>> withing GWT applications? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding Vaadin: It seems this library runs on the server. I >>>>>>>>>>>> don't think this is suitable for me. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that there is a lot of stuff out there and I am >>>>>>>>>>>> already stuck in another framework hell. >>>>>>>>>>>> So are there any sources where I can get informed or can >>>>>>>>>>>> somebody recommend me reliable library that won't send me into >>>>>>>>>>>> hell's >>>>>>>>>>>> kitchen? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> BR; Stefan >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 16 January 2016 01:04:02 UTC+1, Alain wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vaadin (https://vaadin.com/home) >>>>>>>>>>>>> GXT(https://www.sencha.com/products/gxt/) >>>>>>>>>>>>> GWT Bootstap ( >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gwtbootstrap3.github.io/gwtbootstrap3-demo/) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ext4j (http://eemi2010.github.io/ext4j/) : Disclaimer I >>>>>>>>>>>>> created the library >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> See there a lot of choice :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 January 2016 at 17:23, Stefan Falk <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am looking for a GWT Widget Library with basic desktop-like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> elements like Smart GWT [1]? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Smart GWT is not really cheap. Is there a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> library that you can recommend me? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards and thank you for any hints. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]: http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#main >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "GWT Users" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alain Ekambi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Co-Founder >>>>>>>>>>>>> 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