For empowerment question,where is the level playing field?This is not just a power play.chithralekha issue is clearly a genocidal matter.NCDHR gives us the day to day reality of casteist violence .Kerala also gives its contribution. --- salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> this kind of supreme self righteousness 'even' in > the name of > dalit/subaltern politics reminds me of the 'golden' > days of proletarian > dictatorship. they rejected all democratic space, > rights, tolerance, and > dialogues by calling them bourgeois. > if we assume any superior legitimacy for us over > others, it will lead us to > no better situation of justice. > > nobody in this group fails to see the brahminic > system of injustice and > violence. but, instead of strengthening the > resistance against it, ranjith > seems to be bashing all directions blindly, thinking > himself that he is > polluting or attacking the whole unjust social > system by irritating others, > making samskarika nayakar speaks out, placing the > people like dilip, who are > trying in their own way to resist the brahminic and > all other macro and > micro power mechanism in our society, at the 'other' > side. > > On 7/25/07, C.K. Vishwanath > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > i remember gail omvedt's article on this topic.she > > analysed it brilliantly.The post-dalit panther > > politics of india don't want any > patronage.Multiple > > oppressions of dalits have been sidelining for > > centuries.The particular inclusion/exclusion > strategy > > of castiest strategy doesn't work > anymore.chithralekha > > issue has exposed the silence of castiest civil > > society in kerala.Otherwise,how can we create a > > democratic civil society? > > --- Ranjit Ranjit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > hi dilip, > > > > > > see i have no claims of an activist or > intellectual > > > > > > i wanna raise the issue of Dalit/subaltern > refering > > > chitralekha issue, as a > > > continuation of wht Mr Venugopal wrote. and i > begun > > > by raising the quesion > > > of silence and invisibility.... i have mentioned > it > > > in my previous mails and > > > dont want to repeat all those things again.. > > > i want to make it clear that i have nothing > personal > > > against dilip or > > > others, though i critisice them severely... (see > i > > > know Anivar, but that > > > doesn't meant that i cant critisice him) > > > i never met Venugopal, dilip, anil, rafeek and > > > others... > > > > > > when differences arise in a heated debate it's > quite > > > 'natural' to expect > > > 'verbal violence' > > > 'violence' indicate that there is some probelm > > > it shows the breaks in the commensensical > homogenous > > > linearity of > > > history/writing/reading > > > and many times it become s the only weapon for > the > > > downtrodden to fight the > > > subtle, but cleverly placed 'violence' of caste > > > hegemonies in public/private > > > spheres > > > > > > as one Black writer wrote (quoting from memory) > that > > > if i dont call a racist > > > white a 'bastard' , i am not black..." (not the > > > exact words, but 'BASTARD i > > > remember) > > > > > > so those who got hurt need not feel "FRUSTRATED" > > > it's a historical necessity > > > as i believe it's time for the Dalit/subaltern > to > > > attack with whatever they > > > get in hand, whether it is theory or 'theri' > > > (perhaphs they might invent > > > better non-Brahmincal theries for that..) > > > > > > a humble request to who plans to run away from > > > greenyouth, " I might have > > > POLLUTED the sacred space of urs, but remember, > WE, > > > not just I, will come > > > wherever u go to pollute ...(dont mind whether u > > > call it fascist or not, as > > > I think, your way of "democracy" is worst than > our > > > "fascism") > > > > > > with personal greeatings to all and wish a happy > > > discussion further in this > > > forum > > > > > > regards > > > > > > with metta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > answers from someone who > > knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ greenyouth mailinglist is the activist support mailinglist for kerala To post to this group, send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
