Friends, Happy to see that Geedha's forwarded article is released at last..
i was tryin to connect wit what she wrote in the last mail Since modernity is still a largely incomplete project in a country like India, my theoretical aspirations to hold a postmodern standpoint is encumbered by the everyday life situations which myself and many of my friends encounter. and since the theory constantly engages me with the society and myself, i understand that myself and many of my dalitbahujan friends will tkae generations to reach a "positionless position" where one can be a 'universal' citizen unmarked by caste and gender. those who can afford to become 'universalists' can discuss abt alliances and dismiss 'politics based on identities' . but for many, even with the problems inherent in such a stand, it is still a reality. that is why people from various groups, since their lone voices have been systematically oppressed, it is these groups which help them to question and reach out.. In the previous mail, i was trying to differentiate between what we percieve as violence and what we do not and the use of polemics.. it was not an attempt to shrink Dileep to a 'go to hell' and ranjit to a polemic 'fascist'. I dont claim to be non-violent persona in my mails and i do think that most of the participants in the discussion are also doing the same.. Regards Christy On 9/29/07, Sreejitha P V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anivar, > I think Geedha's mail is particularly relevant here as it points to > the way women's participation in an issue is analysed. Sugathakumari > can be placed in termes of her husband? > Renjith > Who decides what is the hegemonic act?I think since so many identities > are merged, it is not so simple to place someone in a particular > identity and say her/ his act is hegomonic or counter Hegemonic. > Sreejitha. > > > On 9/29/07, Anivar Aravind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > jenny chithra wrote: > > > > > > dear friends, this is in response to ranjith's call to protest against > > > anivar putting him in moderation and then blocking mails. > > > > See the blocked mails weekly updated on files sections in the group. > > What is in the logic of call for protest in the name of not releasing > > mails sent between 12 night- 2.30 AM.The call for Protest mail appeared > > at 8.25 AM. > > > > > anivar i think is unjustly exercising his power as moderator in > > > moderating ranjith just for views expressed against a public figure. > > > i also don't see why geedha's mails which has some evidence against > > > sugathakumari cannot be published in greenyouth. anivar need not > > > block us from accessing what ranjith and geedha has to say and > > > protect us like this. we can read and decide whether what they are > > > saying is right or wrong. i feel anivar is exercising this power not > > > only against ranjith and geedha but also against me as someone who > > > silently belongs to this group... and i protest... > > > > Geedhaas mail are not published in this list due to following reason > > > > 1. As per list rules All new members are moderated untill they post 3 > > messages worth for the discussions in this group. > > > > 2.The mail Geedha posted is titled as "the article written by > > vellayudhan nair in madrubhumi when sugathakumari was the chairperson of > > womens commission" with a scan of Velayudhan nair's article on sthee > > peedanam. I told her that its tome is same as in various manorama > > reports. She replied that Velayudhan nair is sugatakumaries husband. > > So what? > > > > I felt it is totally not relevant to the list > > I am posting it since the hiding feeling is created through offlist > > campaigns and it is shared by a lot of list members. > > > > > i want to remind myself that the best thinkers of this world, like > > > ambedkar.. > > > used analysis and not polemics or branding... > > > > Flamewars will not benefit anyone. (You call it polemics, In mailing > > list terminologies it is called as flamewars) > > > > > > > > > however, as christy pointed out, no one even noticed the violence when > > > dileep > > > did it. no one felt like moderating him... > > > > Didnt you see his apology for those usages? look at archives before > > concluding > > > > > > > i think it is this deadly male combination of dileep, ranjith and > > > anivar.. that has led to this kind > > > of a cyber warfare. > > > > Why not geedha? why not christy? (as sreejitha pointed) Did you forgot > > sanal's contributions?, Do you think they are not on picture? > > > > i liked the argument of "immature crude power" can you explain it further? > > > > > > Anivar (as list admin) > > > > > > > > > > -- > I eat meat."It was not that I felt myself turning into evil, but that > an enormous physical indifference, as vast as the whole abyss of light > at my feel, came to me: an indifference not only to the other man's > body scrambling and kicking on the ground with an arrow through it, > but also to mine" > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
