I'm replying to this post as I feel it is one of the most useful on this
thread, and the convenience of having Grade 2 input and a Braille display
all in a neat unit is, for some, a great convenience.

Yes, sure, the cost is high, and downright prohibitive for some;  but surely
we can not quarel with those who actually do spend their money this way,
rather than patching together a portable kit with one of the new cheap
laptops at its heart.

I did use a BrailleLite curtacy of Access to work some years ago and it was
one of the nicest notetakers I ever had the pleasure of using.  I regard
such notetakers as beyond my means these days, but as I say, I won't pick an
arguement with anyone who does fork out for them.

Much of the Access Tech industry depends on Government funding in one way or
another, and redistributers here in the UK would be out of business if that
weren't so.  So it is good that alternatives like the NC 10 are coming along
now, and much more compact Braille displays too.

Remember too that Window-Eyes - oh yes, W-E - I thought folks had forgotten
about the program that is, after all, the main subject of this list - can be
put on portable devices without restriction, but no need to mention other
products, I feel.

So, and if anyone's still reading this, please, let's have some give and
take and respect the choices people make, and have less personal abuse while
we're at it.

Ray.

E. wrote:
Your points are all well taken. I suggest that off the shelf products
and specially developed notetakers may be different products. Thus
the discussion is valuable, if comparing is possible understanding
their differences.
One of these differences is the availability of Grade Two braille
input. The Braille Sense and Humanware notetakers do allow somebody
to input using Grade Two braille. This input option may be faster for
somebody with good braille writing skills who needs to take down
verbatum transcripts or who wants to input notes rapidly. In this
case, the notetaker user is paying for the braille translation
software in the notetaker.

Off the shelf and notetakers are sometimes actually different
products, as in this case. They each have advantages and
disadvantages depending on the needs of an individual. This is a
useful discussion if framed in something other than either or terms.

I would personally like a braille display which contained a braille
translator if possible but did not have the weight of either the
braille sense or other notetakers.


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