I know I should be on track and actually discuss what Rich suggested and I shortly will. I need to respond to some rather poisonous thoughts here.
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Arthus Erea <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Feb 19, 2009, at 8:35 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > 1) The pool of committers is now too large to be considered merely me > and my pals. > > > I was referring to Owen. > > Regardless, I think that's the point: Owen seems to be worried he will lose > his strong control over the project, as the group of committers grows. Thus, > he attempts to invalidate certain people from committing. > Your statement lacks any evidence. When did an idea/implementations, other than the obvious poorly implemented ones, were ever "shot down" by Owen of any other committer for that matter? I cannot see any take-over efforts whatsoever. Pleas try to be subjective. > 2) The committers have a range of skills, so that some of them are > qualified to review code commits, and others are qualified to review > design commits, and others are qualified to review documentation > commits. This is simple division of labor, not excluding certain > people from being reviewer > > > Of course, but who decides this? > > In my opinion, that should be at the discretion of the committer. If they > think of themselves as competent enough to review a patch, why should others > be second guessing them? > Remember that almost everyone thinks he's competent even though everyone says that they are not. I disagree, however, on categorizing PMC members. If you think this desginer/novice will not use his commit access wisely or at all, then this needs to be reviewed. There should be a clear statement that PMC members should not necessary be committers. There's nothing wrong, for me, in the idea of PMC member submitting a patch. And for the record, if we are going to revoke commit access for PMC memeber, I'd revoke mine the first. Just in case anyone thinks I am being hypocritical here. > And clearly that's how it is: people only review patches which they are > comfortable with. > > From what I hear, Owen seems to think *he* should be responsible for > arbitrarily deciding some committers are not competent enough to review > patches. This reeks of attempting to subvert the project and weaken other > PMC members. > > Again, personal attacks will get you nowhere. And as you notice, even statements that would actually make sense will be ignored because of your tendency for a personal attacks. You just wasted your time writing that email. Owen is just saying that people who are qualified to review a patch (not just to successfully commit it) should commit it. And while I agree with that, I believe that people who are not qualified to commit must not have commit access in the first place. Anti-Metrocity or not, I am not the best person to actually argue that. Awaiting for your kind attack, I remain --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/habari-dev -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
