On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Arthus Erea <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have no further comment on this. If the PMC wishes to continue it, that is
> their prerogative.
> Personally, I find it discouraging when the response too all of my
> contributions (on a blanket basis, without specific technical objections) is
> that I am a sucky coder who only produces crap incapable of integration into
> Habari.

We had some discussion on IRC about this issue yesterday, but I
haven't yet participated in this thread.

There are very real time constraints on many of the participants in
this project. Most of us work full time (or more). When a contribution
comes through for review, if it doesn't pass an initial "sniff test",
then it likely doesn't merit additional scrutiny, or effort to
improve.

This is not malice. It is not a selective clique looking to run out
specific individuals from participating in the club house. It's a
simple matter of expediency, and, interestingly, politeness.

Remember the old adage "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't
say anything at all" ? Well, in some situations that applies to the
contributions Habari receives.

I would _love_ for Habari to be filled with people who have the time,
energy and passion to take each contribution and provide thoughtful,
meaningful responses. I would love to see Habari be as much a project
to educate and grow new developers as it is a successful blogging
application. I would love to see seasoned developers share their
insights and experiences with junior coders in order to advance the
craft of programming generally.

Unfortunately, this isn't always going to happen. The aforementioned
time constraints are one reason. It takes A LOT of time to walk
someone through a piece of code to explain specific deficiencies.
Another reason is simple personality conflicts -- something we'll
always struggle with. Another issue is that some people can DO, but
can't teach. There is, in many ways, a real art to successful
programming, and some people have an intuitive ability to do it well
without being able to articulate the why or how.

So while I understand -- and in many ways share -- your frustrations
regarding code contributions, I can only implore you not to take it
personally. You have nothing more than my word, but I assure you that
there is no hidden agenda, or self-selecting group of pals working to
exclude others, nor any ulterior motive to assert superiority. In the
limited free time some of us have, we must make choices about how we
respond, and what will get our attention.

> I really do love the Habari project and most of the community.

As with any community, there will always be factions and segments that
get along better than others. We're not a homogenous group, and few of
us have ever met in person, which further complicates things. We're
building a shared history together every day via IRC, mailing lists,
and blog comments. I'm optimistic that this will be a positive,
successful history, and I hope you're able to find a comfortable place
within this community of weirdos. ;)


Cheers,
Scott

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