Jean Christophe Andr? ????????:
> Nguyen Vu Hung a ?crit :
>> N?u theo ??nh ngh?a ? wikipedia, "proprietary software" ng??c v?i FOSS.
>>   
> I would say "ng??c v?i PMTD", but not FOSS in general.
> 
> Because you can have an Open Source software, meaning the source is
> available, but still it's not Free software because it doesn't respect
> the 4 laws, as you say.
> 
> Getting access to the source of a software is not enough to make it Free!
> 
> The licence would give source access but may be not the right to change
> anything or distribute modifications to it (would it be bug corrections
> or enhancements) !
> 
Yes I know. But please keep in mind that I am seeking for a *good
enough* translation of this word, not to explain the meaning of the word.

For those who is outside the FOSS world, it is very hard to explain what
is FOSS in a short sentence while not to make them misunderstand.

>> Nh?ng ph?n m?m GPL c?ng c? th? coi l? ???c ??t d??i "b?n quy?n GPL", v? n? 
>> c?ng ??i h?i nh?ng ng??i s? d?ng n? tu?n th? 4 lu?t c? b?n ghi trong GPL.
>>   
> GPL softwares are not different from proprietary softwares in that they
> too are protected by the copyright laws.
> 
> For GPL softwares, this protection is here to enforce a licence giving
> almost total freedom to their users, still preserving the author(s)
> rights (the author may change the licence at a later point).
> 
> Without copyright, it would be called "public domain" softwares, which
> means they are not protected at all (no copyright, no licence).
> 
>> Theo em, ?? d? hi?u v? ng?n g?n, n?n d?ch l? "PM ??ng" v? c? ch? th?ch n?u 
>> c?n.
>>   
> Still I can't agree with this one too because "??ng", meaning "closed"
> (a FSF "word to avoid") doesn't include Open Source softwares not totaly
> Free, which should be included per FSF and Wikipedia definitions.

It is very hard to balance the length of the word and the meaning it has.
It is even harder it we want to keep the translation 1-1.

"PM ddo'ng" is not enough. How about

"PM ddo'ng va kho^ng mie^~n phi'" as suggested in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary_software

BR,

NVH

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