David Tremblay ????????: > >>> Theo em, ?? d? hi?u v? ng?n g?n, n?n d?ch l? "PM ??ng" v? c? ch? th?ch n?u >>> c?n. >>> >> Still I can't agree with this one too because "??ng", meaning "closed" >> (a FSF "word to avoid") doesn't include Open Source softwares not totaly >> Free, which should be included per FSF and Wikipedia definitions. > > "word to avoid" by FSF are too many and they are dealing with english > language and North american culture, which already translate with > difficulties in many other place. Some of their suggestion are good but > they also don't suggest anything in vietnamese ... > Are you all following the definition from FSF?
"According to the Free Software Foundation (FSF), proprietary software is any software that does not meet its definitions of free software[1] or semi-free software[2]." [Wikipedia] "Proprietary software is software that is not free or semi-free. Its use, redistribution or modification is prohibited, or requires you to ask for permission, or is restricted so much that you effectively can't do it freely." [3] [FSF] It seems that wikipedia copies FSF. If follows this definition, for the sake of simplicity, we can omit "semi-free sw", only treat "free sw" in the translation, and go for "PM ddo'ng va kho^ng mie^~n phi'". Because when "semi-free sw" is omited, we can only consider 4 basic rules of "free sw"[4] > Why don't you use "closed and non-free" to make sure that your audience > understand that you are talking about software that is not "open > source". > I agree. See above. > When translating that one have to translate the meaning, the essence but > it must also translate it to its audience : colonialist software, > enslaving software, unfree, "user subjugating software" > I agree :D > The main thing to understand in proprietary is that the software as a > "proprietor" some one who own the right whatever they want with the > software. This is the meaning you want to convey. Then we come to the philosophy of FSF. Should we contribute to vi.wikipedia.org bunch of entries related to FOSS? BR, NVH [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-free_software [3] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#semi-freeSoftware [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software#Definition
