So did you cut the edges first to prepare them for the liquid nails?

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:40 AM, ken winston caine <
ken.winston.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:

> REVISION: LIQUID NAILS SUCCESS
>
> NEW TEST: Liquid Nails vs. Epoxy
>
> -1- Liquid Nails, spread thinly with putty knife, on smooth flat
> beveled-cut surface, with some tiny holes scratched into both facing
> surfaces with a wallpaper scouring tool, then clamped and cured for 24
> hours, works BEAUTIFULLY! Incredible strength. And Liquid Nails claims its
> repairs will outlast the life of the original material. Am going to trust
> that.
>
> -2- Epoxy, surfaces prepared the same way as above, simply did not dig in
> to anything but the very very topmost layers of polyiso fuzz. And the
> adhered parts easily snapped apart after 24 hours cure time. When snapped
> apart, I observed the epoxy "bond" covered with maybe 1/100 inch of polyiso
> fuzz. Is possible that if I punched a lot of tiny 1/2" deep holes in each
> face and smeared on the epoxy much thicker, that I would get a strong bond.
> But, given the positive results with the Liquid Nails, once spread with a
> putty knife, and its substantially lower cost, I am not going to do any
> further testing with epoxy resin. Also is possible that epoxy would work
> better (or perfectly) with NEW polyiso boards. Mine are salvaged boards,
> possibly 20 or more years old. (They do age, outgas, lose R-Factor over
> time. And maybe mine are fuzzier along my cuts than new boards would be. I
> don't know.)
>
> So ... I am going with the much less expensive Liquid Nails.
>
> That means I must create some 30-degree-angle braces (out of 2x4s?) that I
> can clamp onto roof-cone sections as I glue them to hold them for the 24
> hours cure time. And 30-degree-angle braces for the wall sections.
>
>
> As an additional measure, am going to use an awl to punch a dozen or more
> 1/4" deep random holes along each face to allow for much greater material
> penetration in those spots to make for a stronger, more durable bond once
> cured.
>
> Also, am going to test using rubbing alcohol or acetone on a cloth to
> lightly rub the surfaces to be joined to see if that will help clean away
> dusty fuzz. (Or whether it melts the polyiso.)
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 2:54:31 PM UTC-6, ken winston caine wrote:
>>
>> Fail was my fault.
>>
>> 1. I didn't clamp the boards after gluing.
>> 2. I thought a 70 lb. pallet would be adequate to keep a wind gust from
>> causing a problem during overnight cure.
>> 3. I had assumed the Liquid Nails compound would be less viscous and more
>> grabby and  that I could spread/smear it over the entire surface of each
>> face to join. Not possible. Instructions say to apply in a zig-zag design,
>> so that is what I tried. <snip>
>>
>>
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