I think the "tools" Gabe was on about are regarding the art pipeline and Hammer, not the actual code.
And Tony, wasn't gameui made a part of the mod code rather than being a part of the engine in 2009? On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Psy_Commando <psycomma...@gmail.com> wrote: > Didn't Gabe Newell said they were working on sdk tools one or two months > ago ? > Anyways, the thing is, I'm not very confident in the ASW devs, or ASW's > future. I heard from the guys I'm helping at Hypovolemia, that they gave > them a fixed matchmaking dll to fix the hard-coded limit of 5 players, but > after issuing them with the fix they went silent and didn't release it > officially, as far as I know. They haven't heard from them since May, if I > remember correctly. > We also don't have access to the shaderlib, I'd swap it with the orange > box's shaderlib, but they seem to have a lot of custom shaders. And the vbsp > version that comes with asw, turns every brush into func_detail, so there's > no visibility optimization, we have to use the OB vbsp instead for fps, or > 3rd person mods :( > > And I wonder if a mod can be incentive enough to download the complete ASW > just to play the mod, why can't we just have a SDK base ASW ? Or even just > merge the ASW SDK with the source sdk, so it may get a little more attention > from the devs, and community. > > And thanks for the skeleton code, I'll check it out. But I'm pretty far > along tweaking the asw_player back into a "regular" player, I'm still > struggling a little with the anim system though. > > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Tom Edwards <t_edwa...@btinternet.com>wrote: > >> There's a change to the way SteamIDs are handled that breaks game DLL >> networking, Tony. IIRC that's why Source 2009 was split off from 2007 in the >> first place. Sounds like something easy to fix though... >> >> >> On 30/07/2011 3:46, Tony "omega" Sergi wrote: >> >>> Oh, and when I say there are no significant changes in the code, i mean >>> the publically available mod code. not engine, and stuff only valve + >>> licensee's get. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Tony "omega" Sergi < >>> omegal...@gmail.com <mailto:omegal...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> btw, there *really* aren't *that many* differences between 2007 >>> and 2009, granted, it probably would be nicer to have an SDK for >>> it, just so that it's the latest and greatest, but there are no >>> significant changes in the code. >>> and last i looked, it should have no problem loading 2007 compiled >>> mods, as the interfaces required haven't changed from what I can >>> see. (TF2 is running 2009, and you run mods from that engine, at >>> least where the DS is concerned..) >>> >>> I suppose the next best thing would be just to update "source sdk >>> base 2007" up to "source sdk base 2009". >>> >>> - Tony >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard >>> <tobias.kammersga...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:tobias.kammersgaard@**gmail.com<tobias.kammersga...@gmail.com>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> The biggest problem with using the ASW code is really the lack >>> of Half-Life 2 content. The singleplayer mod I'm working on >>> would love to have features from the ASW code base, however >>> lack of HL2 stops us from going there. Granted we should >>> replace all the HL2 content with out own, but I don't see that >>> happening with a team of 5 people. >>> >>> However I will checkout your skeleton Tom :)! >>> >>> - ScarT >>> >>> >>> >>> On 30 July 2011 14:57, Tom Edwards <t_edwa...@btinternet.com >>> <mailto:t_edwards@btinternet.**com <t_edwa...@btinternet.com>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Don't expect any more significant updates to 2007/9, if >>> for no other reason than the move from GCF to NCF. Alien >>> Swarm is from the main codeline and is much more recent >>> than 2007/9 so is clearly the best choice for new mods. >>> >>> Since you probably aren't making a top-down shooter here >>> is an alpha for the Alien Swarm Skeleton, which is a >>> simple first-person game. Hopefully having something >>> public will encourage me to spend more time on its >>> remaining problems. :) >>> >>> http://steamreview.org/**external/vdc/srcsdk-skeleton-** >>> 2.0a1.zip<http://steamreview.org/external/vdc/srcsdk-skeleton-2.0a1.zip> >>> >>> >>> On 30/07/2011 12:24, Psy_Commando wrote: >>> >>> Sorry, for the previous message, forgot to put a >>> subject... >>> >>> Hi,this time I'm having a more complicated question. >>> Me and my team were about to switch from Source 2007 >>> to Alien Swarm Source, to make our mod free, and to >>> have access to the menu and loading UI and the Alien >>> Swarm assets. However, Source 2007 is now free, so >>> that removed one of the big advantages of ASW. Beside >>> ASW, has tons of references directly to member >>> variables of other classes, which makes it very hard >>> to make significant changes. >>> >>> What I'm wondering is, is this a good move in the long >>> term ? I mean ASW, and the ASW SDK are pretty much >>> left to die by its devs, and there are about two >>> active mods... Unlike with ASW I can expect that there >>> will be a Source 2009 update at some point with the >>> Source SDK. 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