i'm reading and i'm still looking for the light. bjorn, warthog, and ken
seem to be doing about as much guessing as anyone else. everything seems to
be based on hearsay and opinions of Tony. it still looks to me like the PB
staff was just as surprised as everyone else. they just have the decency
(and rightly so) of defending Tony's decision publically.
and what do we expect to hear from Valve? that they don't like the PB
technology? that they're working on their own anti-cheating software? that
they don't like the way Tony smells? my GUESS (based on my own business
experience) is that there simply is not a good enough business reason for
Sierra (and thus Valve) to deal with the PB team right now. and you don't
make press releases or public statements about NOT doing something...
~j
----- Original Message -----
From: "HoundDawg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: PB no more.....
If you need more enlightenment from PB's side, go through their
forums....even start with this topic:
<http://www.crimeprev.org/mat/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=3bb17dfa6bf6ff
ff;act=ST;f=12;t=1694>
http://www.crimeprev.org/mat/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=3bb17dfa6bf6fff
f;act=ST;f=12;t=1694
HoundDawg
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Buddha-Pest" < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: PB no more.....
>
> we've heard PB's side? oh, you mean the sudden rant on their news
page?
> i'm sorry, but i am still waiting for the explanation from the PB
side...
>
> Either:
> 1. Tony went to Valve to ask them to finance PB (either by outright
buying
> them, or by funding them). Valve said no or didn't respond or did not
> respond IN TIME. Tony threw a fit.
> 2. Tony keeps asking for support from Valve (btw, this isn't
"answering
> questions" probably more like having a gander at the source or asking
for
> new APIs in the SDK). Valve said no or didn't respond or didn't
respond IN
> TIME. Tony threw a fit.
> 3. Both
>
> my guess: it's mostly 1 and a wee bit of 2.
>
>
> don't get me wrong here guys, i want to see PB + HL work. i have
supported
> PB from the get go. i appreciate what these VOLUNTEERS have done. i
> respect them. I AM WILLING TO PAY THEM FOR A SERVER PRODUCT. but i
do not
> support the way they handle basically every fucking issue. which is
with
> anger and stubbornness.
>
> consider how unresponsive PB has been to admins over the last year
(Clan Tag
> Registry is a great example), how for months they refused to allow the
> product to go in an unexpected direction (even a month ago PB support
was
> still referring to PB as a product for leagues), how totally
unsupportive
> they were with 3rd party apps (until about 2 months ago, but i won't
forget
> the previous months because not only were they unsupportive, they kept
> flinging that software agreement around at anyone trying to customize
PB
> some). do i want them to get their just deserts? no! but i'm just
> pointing out that these guys are not martyrs of any sort. they're a
decent
> bunch of developers with a great idea and now they want to drop the
ball on
> the very community that made them successful... and they're going to
> jealously guard this technology too, mark my words. i have trouble
> supporting that.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Hall" < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:24 PM
> Subject: RE: PB no more.....
>
>
> >
> > > why is Valve the one that *HAS* to respond?
> >
> > Because we've heard PB's side. We deserve to know what's going
on...
> >
> > Eric (the Deacon remix)
> > <http://www.firekite.com> http://www.firekite.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
