Well, yer definately playing Devil's advocate here (I thought that was
Eric's job). Anyway, yer comments about "pretend" software developers was
unfounded and uncalled for. I'll be the first to THWACK you for that one.
As for the rest of your rantings...I'm disappointed in your viewpoint as it
has no constructiveness in the gaming community, business, or society for
that matter. Talk about a bleak world. I dare you post this type of
mentality to the Linux list. If this philosophy of yours (or devil's
advocate) is how things were done in this HL community, then I'd be the
first one to leave. Because, it is that mentality that everyone thinks that
Microsoft has (which is, for the most part, false) and not welcoming at
best.
If this is truely your beliefs, I hope you never have kids...or ones that
follow your advise...society would be a better place without them... =\
HoundDawg
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----- Original Message -----
From: "HL Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: PB no more.....
>
> At 07:48 AM 09/26/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >If you need more enlightenment from PB's side, go through their
> >forums....even start with this topic:
>
><http://www.crimeprev.org/mat/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=3bb17dfa6bf6ffff;
act=ST;f=12;t=1694>http://www.crimeprev.org/mat/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=
3bb17dfa6bf6ffff;act=ST;f=12;t=1694
>
> This forum is a great read ... I think everyone that's interested in PB
> should read it ...
>
> I also think it's a hoot all you "pretend" software developers are giving
> VALVe poop about a product that has successfully sold millions of copies
> (and probably bootlegged as many) ...
>
> They didn't ask any one of you to set to code any additional utilities for
> their program ... They didn't stop you either ... Anything outside of
VALVe
> is volunteer work ... I'm sure they appreciate it and recognize it, but I
> don't think it's going to sway any of their decisions in the way their
> program will go ... VALVe makes a change, it's up to the volunteers to
> change their utility ... not the other way around ...
>
> And another thing I got out of that forum ... It takes 12-24 hours to hack
> new patches of HL, but only 10-15 minutes to avert PB ... As I stated in
a
> previous message, I have run PB with the false sense of security that
> people were not cheating on my servers ... This has been a false sense of
> security ... PB simply doesn't work, confirmed. It's not like this is a
> new hack either ... It's not like it's one they don't know about either
> ... Publicly distributed, named and accessible ...
>
> I think the only thing that need be done is for VALVe to decide someday,
> "Hey, you know, we ought to stamp out the ability to cheat with our
> program." and from then on it will be history ... VALVe didn't ask Tony
> Ray to spend every waking moment away from work and family to develop PB
> ... Tony Ray should expect nothing in return ...
>
> If VALVe thought it was worth it to work with him on a project to stop
> cheating, they would have done it by now ... Now PB is going corporate
with
> a product that is easily averted, he has distanced himself even further
> from any "community" here in my opinion ... I think VALVe is perfectly
> capable of accomplishing all of this on their own ... I think as a result
> of this, you will see security implemented in VALVe's stuff, and the death
> of PB ... Not the other way around ...
>
> Tony has leaked info of "PB approved" stamps on games coming out .. blah
> blah ... I think it was smoke to up the price ... this is just my opinion
...
>
> Anyway ... play devil's advocate, and really think about this ... Don't go
> on your stance or hearsay ... evaluate the facts ...
>
>
>
>
