beta VAC2 in one week, whee!!!

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:35:54 -0800, Ted Gribble
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Restart your steam client.. the wait is almost over :)!!
> -Ted "bOoya"
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Sure, great, whatever. I've been here for years as well and I've seen about
> >11 months go by since the last VAC update. So how about that quote in late
> >December of "VAC2 is coming 'soon'"?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ook
> >Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:19 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch
> >
> >If you consider what goes through this list a "torrent", what do you
> >consider what goes through the SteamPowered forums? :-)
> >
> >I would imagine that Valve has very strict rules governing who can post here
> >and what they can say. Most companies do, or at least once their lawyers
> >soak them for a million dollars for something some mouthy employee posts,
> >then they have such policies :)
> >
> >I've been on this list for a couple of years, and we have seen several Valve
> >people come and go. For the most part we have received silence, and then
> >every now and then someone like you pops up and actually contributes to the
> >list, answers questions, and addresses issues. For a while. Then one day
> >they vanish, and we get nothing but silence for another six months. I
> >imagine most of us that have been around here for a while are 1) glad we get
> >what support we do get and 2) have lost a lot of respect for Valve because
> >of the many prolonged episodes of silence that we get. I think I speak for
> >most if not all of us when I say we are very gratefull for your presence
> >here, and all you contribute.
> >
> >And don't forget - we are on the outside looking in, and all we know is what
> >you tell us. You might take for granted information that none of us have
> >access to. Maybe you aren't allowed to talk about things like how many
> >programmers you have, what they work on, what their plans are priorities
> >are, etc. Over the years we have discussed many problems here and we come
> >away from these discussions frustrated and angry because Valve won't tell us
> >what is going on.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:32 PM
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>This is the dedicated server list, not a HL2DM one (we are accepting of
> >>all mods on this list ;-)
> >>Actually lots of people in the company subscribe to this list but only a
> >>couple of us are game enough to dabble our toes in the proverbial
> >>torrent of this list. There is also no shooting of messengers, Valve has
> >>a very flat and egalitarian structure (I am a programmer working on a
> >>large range of projects, I just also happen to participate in this
> >>list).
> >>
> >>- Alfred
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Robinson
> >>Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 12:21 PM
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: Re: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch
> >>
> >>Alfred,
> >>
> >>I'm sure that I speak for everyone on this mailing list when I say thank
> >>you for actually listening and responding to us. But when you say that
> >>the HL2DM team are preparing the update*, where are they?
> >>Don't they subscribe to their own mailing list? You seem to be the
> >>messenger, which inevitably means you will be shot (probably with some
> >>form of awp) for just passing on someone else's information.
> >>
> >>* Obviously you said 'we' here but you have said this in different
> >>emails.
> >>
> >>Graham
> >>
> >>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:05:35 -0800, Alfred Reynolds
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>We are preparing the release right now, it will be out later today.
> >>>
> >>>- Alfred
> >>>
> >>>
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