Should be a good test for the q6600 ;)
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From: "Cc2iscooL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
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Sent: 2008-11-04 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers


> 24 players. Running at ~250 FPS steady.
>
> Don Williams wrote:
>> I'm sorry if I missed this but what was the max players? 16?  Or less?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cc2iscooL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: 2008-11-04 10:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>
>>
>>
>>> Yeah, I also tested a Core 2 vs. dual core AMD system and again, the
>>> core2's beat the crap out of them.
>>>
>>> So if you can, pick up a core2. ;)
>>>
>>> dave foster wrote:
>>>
>>>> Me too. I mean, I know my rig is poops, but it's a little discouraging 
>>>> to
>>>> see the variance in performance. For the record:
>>>>
>>>> Single-core AMD Athlon 64  - 2GHz - 95% peak
>>>> Tick 66, FPS~250
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I should think about upgrading :^)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:03, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I really wonder where this difference in CPU load comes from...
>>>>>
>>>>> Our config:
>>>>> Intel Xeon Qcore @ 2.33Ghz - per full TF2 server around 70-80% on a
>>>>> core.
>>>>> Tick 66, FPS ~250.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dustin Wyatt
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:53 PM
>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of our 24-slot TF2 servers are on an Athlon X2 2.2ghz and one
>>>>> server, full, averages around 25% of one core and the highest it
>>>>> spikes is at around 45%.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Karl Weckstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> perfmon.exe  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Early on I set up a few days worth of logging just to see how cpu
>>>>>> cycles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> were being distributed across 8 srcds instances - 3 of which were TF2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Even with 4 servers full (2 TF2, 1 Insurgency and 1 AOC), CPU
>>>>>> utilization
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> was only around 20-25% on a Q6600 within a VM. When I correlated that 
>>>>> to
>>>>> what ESXI thought CPU usage was, it was roughly the same. I'm not
>>>>> incredibly
>>>>> worried about L4D and Q6600's. P4's tho? Yeah, I'd worry. Even the 
>>>>> older
>>>>> 3.6ghz P4 Xeons we have at work are complete dogs compared to anything
>>>>> on
>>>>> Core2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:11 AM
>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The P4's run SRCDS like garbage compared to the new Intel chips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matthew Gottlieb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was running a 24-man TF2 server on a 3GHz P4 and CPU usage tended 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> quite high.  The Q6600 (Intel 2.4 Quad Core) are popular for servers
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> from what I've heard, people can generally only run one 24-man 
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> core.  However, I've noticed that CPU usage drops drastically when 
>>>>>>> NOT
>>>>>>> remote desktoped in...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't have a server to do testing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~ Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, because I was going to say, on my Win2k8 box with an e8600 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> system uses about 10-20% CPU per 24 slot TF2 instance (with 
>>>>>>>> SourceTV)
>>>>>>>> with the media timer on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Karl Weckstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Funny, 2 full servers in a vmware ESXI win2k3 instance uses around
>>>>>>>>> 5%
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> CPU
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> utilization on a Q6600 here...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:20 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What processor architecture are you running?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Matthew Gottlieb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Will the Left 4 Dead Dedicated Server have multi-core support?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Running
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 24-slot TF2 server requires a dedicated core of 2.4GHz or more. 
>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> left
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dead requires more resources then a 24-slot TF2 server,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> mutli-threading
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> required for the dedicated server.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ~ Matt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Jake E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *"More details will be sent to the **mailing
>>>>>>>>>>> lists*<
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9427-OPFH-2819>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * when we have them"*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're VALVe, shouldn't you have them NOW?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Burton Johnsey <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have created an FAQ for the Left 4 Dead Demo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Article:   Left 4 Dead Information
>>>>>>>>>>>> Link:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7659-EUPL-8723
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Karl Weckstrom <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have like 3 quad core servers to toss out there for L4D.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake E
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe Valve will do the honors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Tony Paloma <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If L4D uses more CPU than a TF2 server and holds 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> substantially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> less
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> players,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then hopefully somebody has a ton of cash to blow on tons of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> servers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are going to be lots of people unable to play 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Smith
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:59 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'll be releasing the Left 4 Dead dedicated server files 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Dead demo being released. More details will be sent to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> mailing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we have them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two things to keep in mind regarding running a Left 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Dead
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) The CPU load for the Left 4 Dead server will be higher 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to for games like TF2. Left 4 Dead has a bunch of A.I. for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> zombies,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc., that games like TF2 don't have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Left 4 Dead uses a new matchmaking system we're 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> We'll
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working with the server admin community to make sure the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> system
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as smoothly as possible. More details on this later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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