Yeah, I also tested a Core 2 vs. dual core AMD system and again, the 
core2's beat the crap out of them.

So if you can, pick up a core2. ;)

dave foster wrote:
> Me too. I mean, I know my rig is poops, but it's a little discouraging to
> see the variance in performance. For the record:
>
> Single-core AMD Athlon 64  - 2GHz - 95% peak
> Tick 66, FPS~250
>
> Maybe I should think about upgrading :^)
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:03, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> I really wonder where this difference in CPU load comes from...
>>
>> Our config:
>> Intel Xeon Qcore @ 2.33Ghz - per full TF2 server around 70-80% on a core.
>> Tick 66, FPS ~250.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dustin Wyatt
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:53 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>
>> Some of our 24-slot TF2 servers are on an Athlon X2 2.2ghz and one
>> server, full, averages around 25% of one core and the highest it
>> spikes is at around 45%.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Karl Weckstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>     
>>> perfmon.exe  :)
>>>
>>> Early on I set up a few days worth of logging just to see how cpu cycles
>>>       
>> were being distributed across 8 srcds instances - 3 of which were TF2.
>>     
>>> Even with 4 servers full (2 TF2, 1 Insurgency and 1 AOC), CPU utilization
>>>       
>> was only around 20-25% on a Q6600 within a VM. When I correlated that to
>> what ESXI thought CPU usage was, it was roughly the same. I'm not
>> incredibly
>> worried about L4D and Q6600's. P4's tho? Yeah, I'd worry. Even the older
>> 3.6ghz P4 Xeons we have at work are complete dogs compared to anything on
>> Core2.
>>     
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>       
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>     
>>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:11 AM
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>
>>> The P4's run SRCDS like garbage compared to the new Intel chips.
>>>
>>> Matthew Gottlieb wrote:
>>>       
>>>> I was running a 24-man TF2 server on a 3GHz P4 and CPU usage tended to
>>>>         
>> be
>>     
>>>> quite high.  The Q6600 (Intel 2.4 Quad Core) are popular for servers and
>>>> from what I've heard, people can generally only run one 24-man server a
>>>> core.  However, I've noticed that CPU usage drops drastically when NOT
>>>> remote desktoped in...
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I don't have a server to do testing.
>>>>
>>>> ~ Matt
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Yeah, because I was going to say, on my Win2k8 box with an e8600 the
>>>>> system uses about 10-20% CPU per 24 slot TF2 instance (with SourceTV)
>>>>> with the media timer on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl Weckstrom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Funny, 2 full servers in a vmware ESXI win2k3 instance uses around 5%
>>>>>>             
>> CPU
>>     
>>>>> utilization on a Q6600 here...
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:20 PM
>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What processor architecture are you running?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matthew Gottlieb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Will the Left 4 Dead Dedicated Server have multi-core support?
>>>>>>>               
>> Running
>>     
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> 24-slot TF2 server requires a dedicated core of 2.4GHz or more.  If
>>>>>>>               
>> left
>>     
>>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> dead requires more resources then a 24-slot TF2 server,
>>>>>>>               
>> mutli-threading
>>     
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> required for the dedicated server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~ Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Jake E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> *"More details will be sent to the **mailing
>>>>>>>> lists*<
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9427-OPFH-2819>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> * when we have them"*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're VALVe, shouldn't you have them NOW?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Burton Johnsey <
>>>>>>>>                 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>     
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have created an FAQ for the Left 4 Dead Demo.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Article:   Left 4 Dead Information
>>>>>>>>> Link:
>>>>>>>>> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7659-EUPL-8723
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Karl Weckstrom <
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>     
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> I have like 3 quad core servers to toss out there for L4D.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake E
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe Valve will do the honors.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Tony Paloma <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If L4D uses more CPU than a TF2 server and holds substantially
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> less
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> players,
>>>>>>>>>>> then hopefully somebody has a ton of cash to blow on tons of
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> servers
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>> there are going to be lots of people unable to play (especially
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>> right
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> release).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>> Smith
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:59 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;
>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We'll be releasing the Left 4 Dead dedicated server files prior
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> to
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>> Left
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Dead demo being released. More details will be sent to the
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> mailing
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> lists
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> when we have them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are two things to keep in mind regarding running a Left 4
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> Dead
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> server:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) The CPU load for the Left 4 Dead server will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>> you're
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> to for games like TF2. Left 4 Dead has a bunch of A.I. for the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>> zombies,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>> etc., that games like TF2 don't have.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Left 4 Dead uses a new matchmaking system we're developing.
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> We'll
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>> working with the server admin community to make sure the new
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> system
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> operates
>>>>>>>>>>> as smoothly as possible. More details on this later.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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