24 players. Running at ~250 FPS steady.

Don Williams wrote:
> I'm sorry if I missed this but what was the max players? 16?  Or less?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cc2iscooL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: 2008-11-04 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>
>
>   
>> Yeah, I also tested a Core 2 vs. dual core AMD system and again, the
>> core2's beat the crap out of them.
>>
>> So if you can, pick up a core2. ;)
>>
>> dave foster wrote:
>>     
>>> Me too. I mean, I know my rig is poops, but it's a little discouraging to
>>> see the variance in performance. For the record:
>>>
>>> Single-core AMD Athlon 64  - 2GHz - 95% peak
>>> Tick 66, FPS~250
>>>
>>> Maybe I should think about upgrading :^)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:03, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I really wonder where this difference in CPU load comes from...
>>>>
>>>> Our config:
>>>> Intel Xeon Qcore @ 2.33Ghz - per full TF2 server around 70-80% on a 
>>>> core.
>>>> Tick 66, FPS ~250.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dustin Wyatt
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:53 PM
>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>
>>>> Some of our 24-slot TF2 servers are on an Athlon X2 2.2ghz and one
>>>> server, full, averages around 25% of one core and the highest it
>>>> spikes is at around 45%.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Karl Weckstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> perfmon.exe  :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Early on I set up a few days worth of logging just to see how cpu 
>>>>> cycles
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> were being distributed across 8 srcds instances - 3 of which were TF2.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Even with 4 servers full (2 TF2, 1 Insurgency and 1 AOC), CPU 
>>>>> utilization
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> was only around 20-25% on a Q6600 within a VM. When I correlated that to
>>>> what ESXI thought CPU usage was, it was roughly the same. I'm not
>>>> incredibly
>>>> worried about L4D and Q6600's. P4's tho? Yeah, I'd worry. Even the older
>>>> 3.6ghz P4 Xeons we have at work are complete dogs compared to anything 
>>>> on
>>>> Core2.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:11 AM
>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>
>>>>> The P4's run SRCDS like garbage compared to the new Intel chips.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew Gottlieb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I was running a 24-man TF2 server on a 3GHz P4 and CPU usage tended to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>> be
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> quite high.  The Q6600 (Intel 2.4 Quad Core) are popular for servers 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> from what I've heard, people can generally only run one 24-man server 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> core.  However, I've noticed that CPU usage drops drastically when NOT
>>>>>> remote desktoped in...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't have a server to do testing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~ Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Yeah, because I was going to say, on my Win2k8 box with an e8600 the
>>>>>>> system uses about 10-20% CPU per 24 slot TF2 instance (with SourceTV)
>>>>>>> with the media timer on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Karl Weckstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Funny, 2 full servers in a vmware ESXI win2k3 instance uses around 
>>>>>>>> 5%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> CPU
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>> utilization on a Q6600 here...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:20 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What processor architecture are you running?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Matthew Gottlieb wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Will the Left 4 Dead Dedicated Server have multi-core support?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> Running
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> 24-slot TF2 server requires a dedicated core of 2.4GHz or more.  If
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> left
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> dead requires more resources then a 24-slot TF2 server,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> mutli-threading
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> required for the dedicated server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~ Matt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Jake E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> *"More details will be sent to the **mailing
>>>>>>>>>> lists*<
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9427-OPFH-2819>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>> * when we have them"*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're VALVe, shouldn't you have them NOW?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Burton Johnsey <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We have created an FAQ for the Left 4 Dead Demo.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Article:   Left 4 Dead Information
>>>>>>>>>>> Link:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7659-EUPL-8723
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Karl Weckstrom <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have like 3 quad core servers to toss out there for L4D.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake E
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe Valve will do the honors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Tony Paloma <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If L4D uses more CPU than a TF2 server and holds substantially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>> less
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> players,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then hopefully somebody has a ton of cash to blow on tons of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>> servers
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are going to be lots of people unable to play (especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>> Smith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:59 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'll be releasing the Left 4 Dead dedicated server files prior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> Left
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Dead demo being released. More details will be sent to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>> mailing
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>> lists
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we have them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two things to keep in mind regarding running a Left 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>> Dead
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> server:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) The CPU load for the Left 4 Dead server will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to for games like TF2. Left 4 Dead has a bunch of A.I. for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>> zombies,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc., that games like TF2 don't have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Left 4 Dead uses a new matchmaking system we're developing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>> We'll
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working with the server admin community to make sure the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>> system
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> operates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as smoothly as possible. More details on this later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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