I know this was sent to the windows list, but on linux we notice if there's only one busy server it will jump core every 5 minutes or so... if we constrain it to the one core, we get a significant lag spike at the point where it would have jumped, so we just leave them be these days.
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Brunelle > Sent: 04 November 2008 17:36 > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers > > This varies case by case. If I set affinity using firedaemon the > server > experiences weird lag spikes until I remove the affinity. I've heard > some > people say it made a difference and others who had issues. > > --Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stutters > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:30 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers > > I'm no Windows Server maverick (rly), but we saw noticeable > improvements setting each srcds process to a specific core (by way of > FireDaemon). CPU usage declined, gameplay improved. > > Hardly scientific, but feedback none the less. > > Matt "stutters" Albiniak > Gamerscoalition > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.gamerscoalition.com > > On Nov 4, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Cc2iscooL wrote: > > > There was a bug (fixed) in srcds that caused that, but Windows will > > load > > balance by itself. > > > > Matthew Gottlieb wrote: > >> Does windows automatically load-balance? > >> I thought if you didn't define a core they all run on the first > >> core (core > >> 0). > >> > >> I could be wrong though, I don't currently have a multi-core server > >> at my > >> disposal. > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Wolfie - Cybernetic < > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> In my experience, it's better to let Windows load balance them and > >>> not to > >>> set any kind of affinity. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec > >>> Sanger > >>> Sent: 04 November 2008 15:45 > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers > >>> > >>> I ran 2 3.0 Dual Core Xeon boxes when TF2 came out. I could only > >>> get a > >>> single 24 man tf2 server on each CPU, and the load was something > >>> insane > >>> like > >>> 90% - 95%. It was horrible. We switched to an oct core opteron and > >>> saw an > >>> improvement, but we were still getting high cpu load. The new > >>> architecture > >>> is where it's at. People are running full servers off a single C2D > >>> quad > >>> without any lag. Simply can't be done with outdated processors... > >>> > >>> > >>>> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:30:56 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > >>>> > >>> [email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead > >>> dedicated > >>> servers> > I don't explicitly configure tickrate or FPSrate. > >>> They're at the > >>> default (whatever they may be). > > -----Original Message-----> > >>> From: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint > >>> K.> Sent: > >>> Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:04 AM> To: 'Half-Life dedicated > >>> Win32 server > >>> mailing list'> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers> > >>> > I > >>> really > >>> wonder where this difference in CPU load comes from...> > Our > >>> config:> > >>> Intel > >>> Xeon Qcore @ 2.33Ghz - per full TF2 server around 70-80% on a > >>> core.> Tick > >>> 66, FPS ~250.> > Cheers,> > -----Original Message-----> From: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dustin > >>> Wyatt> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:53 PM> To: Half-Life dedicated > >>> Win32 > >>> server mailing list> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated > >>> servers> > > >>> Some of our 24-slot TF2 servers are on an Athlon X2 2.2ghz and > >>> one> server, > >>> full, averages around 25% of one core and the highest it> spikes > >>> is at > >>> around 45%.> > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Karl Weckstrom > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > perfmon.exe :)> >> > Early on I set > >>> up a > >>> few > >>> days worth of logging just to see how cpu cycles> were being > >>> distributed > >>> across 8 srcds instances - 3 of which were TF2.> >> > Even with 4 > >>> servers > >>> full (2 TF2, 1 Insurgency and 1 AOC), CPU utilization> was only > >>> around > >>> 20-25% on a Q6600 within a VM. When I correlated that to> what > >>> ESXI thought > >>> CPU usage was, it was roughly the same. I'm not incredibly> > >>> worried about > >>> L4D and Q6600's. P4's tho? Yeah, I'd worry. Even the older> 3.6ghz > >>> P4 Xeons > >>> we have at work are complete dogs compared to anything on> Core2.> > > > >>> ________________________________________> > From: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> ] > >>> On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, > >>> November > >>> 03, > >>> 2008 2:11 AM> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list> > > > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers> >> > The P4's > >>> run SRCDS > >>> like garbage compared to the new Intel chips.> >> > Matthew > Gottlieb > >>> wrote:> > >>> > >>>>> I was running a 24-man TF2 server on a 3GHz P4 and CPU usage > >>>>> tended to > >>>>> > >>> be> >> quite high. The Q6600 (Intel 2.4 Quad Core) are popular for > >>> servers > >>> and> >> from what I've heard, people can generally only run one 24- > >>> man > >>> server a> >> core. However, I've noticed that CPU usage drops > >>> drastically > >>> when NOT> >> remote desktoped in...> >>> >> Unfortunately I don't > >>> have a > >>> server to do testing.> >>> >> ~ Matt> >>> >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 > >>> at 9:29 > >>> PM, > >>> Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >>> >>> >>> Yeah, because > >>> I was > >>> going to say, on my Win2k8 box with an e8600 the> >>> system uses > >>> about > >>> 10-20% CPU per 24 slot TF2 instance (with SourceTV)> >>> with the > >>> media > >>> timer on.> >>>> >>> Karl Weckstrom wrote:> >>>> >>>> Funny, 2 full > >>> servers > >>> in a vmware ESXI win2k3 instance uses around 5%> CPU> >>>>> >>> > >>> utilization > >>> on a Q6600 here...> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>> > From: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:> >>>>> >>> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Sent: > >>> Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:20 PM> >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated > >>> Win32 > >>> server > >>> mailing list> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated > >>> servers> >>>>> > >>> > >>>>>>> What processor architecture are you running?> >>>>> >>>> > Matthew > >>>>>>> > >>> Gottlieb wrote:> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Will the Left 4 Dead Dedicated > >>> Server > >>> have multi-core support?> Running> >>>>>> >>> a> >>>> >>>>> 24- > >>> slot TF2 > >>> server requires a dedicated core of 2.4GHz or more. If> left> > >>> >>>>>> >>> > >>> for> >>>> >>>>> dead requires more resources then a 24-slot TF2 > >>> server,> > >>> mutli-threading> >>>>>> >>> is> >>>> >>>>> required for the > >>> dedicated > >>> server.> >>>>>> >>>>> ~ Matt> >>>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at > >>> 3:44 PM, > >>> Jake E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> *"More details will be sent to the **mailing> >>>>>> lists*<> > >>> >>>>>>> >>> > >>> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9427- > >>> OPFH-2819>> >>>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> * when we have them"*> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> You're VALVe, > >>>>>>>>> > >>> shouldn't > >>> you have them NOW?> >>>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:17 > >>> PM, Burton > >>> Johnsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>> wrote:> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have created an FAQ for the Left 4 Dead Demo.> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Article: Left 4 Dead Information> >>>>>>> Link:> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7659-EUPL-8723> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Karl Weckstrom > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I have like 3 quad core servers to toss out there for L4D.> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>>>>>> From: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:> >>>>>>>> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake E> >>>>>>>> > >>> Sent: > >>> Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:37 PM> >>>>>>>> To: Half-Life > >>> dedicated Win32 > >>> server mailing list> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead > >>> dedicated > >>> servers> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe Valve will do the honors.> > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Tony Paloma <> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> If L4D uses more CPU than a TF2 server and holds > >>>>>>>>>>>> substantially> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> less> >>>>>>>>> players,> >>>>>>>>> then hopefully somebody has a > >>> ton of > >>> cash to blow on tons of> servers> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> or> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> there are going to be lots > >>> of people > >>> unable to play (especially> >>>>>>>>>> >>> right> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> after> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> release).> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>>>>>>> From: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> Smith> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:59 PM> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] Left > >>> 4 Dead > >>> dedicated servers> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We'll be releasing the > >>> Left 4 Dead > >>> dedicated server files prior to> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> the> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Left> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Dead demo being released. More details will be sent to > >>>>>>>>>>>> the> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> mailing> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lists> >>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we have them.> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> There > >>> are two things to keep in mind regarding running a Left 4> Dead> > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> server:> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) The CPU load for the Left 4 Dead > >>> server > >>> will be higher than> >>>>>>>>>> >>> you're> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> used> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to for games like TF2. Left 4 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dead > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> has a bunch of A.I. for the> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> zombies,> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> etc., that games like > >>> TF2 don't > >>> have.> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2) Left 4 Dead uses a new matchmaking > >>> system > >>> we're developing.> We'll> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > >>> be> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working with the server admin > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> to > >>> make sure the new> system> >>>>>>>>> operates> >>>>>>>>> as > >>> smoothly as > >>> possible. 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