God could there have been a better way to drama bomb the mailing list? I don't think I've ever seen anything elicit such responses. I was simply saying, its a public server, anyone can join, we are keeping out the people with the mathacks, and distributing items to everyone.

On 10/28/2011 10:39 PM, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote:
yeah, well, its exactly why the drop system is only dependent on being connected to a server, and nothing else...

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    *From:* Noel <[email protected]>
    *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
    <[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Saturday, 29 October 2011, 4:56
    *Subject:* Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] About the TF2 in-game abuse
    reporting tool

    Gotta say, I don't really care what you do with your server
    (although that approach does sound a wee-bit exploitative -- and
    potentially lucrative considering what some of the event items
    seem to sell for) but I got a chuckle out of "so everyone gets
    their fair share" when discussing a means of gaming the system.

    Also liked the "especially since other people are cheating worse"
    part.

    On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Crazed Gunman
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    wrote:

        I have a server right now that I have several people on,
        running viaduct_event, and what we've been doing is noclipping
        to the gifts and handing them out to everyone evenly; my
        problem is that this could qualify as farming, but we're doing
        it for everyone evenly so everyone gets their fair share,
        especially since some people have material hacks from last
        year already for the giftbox model and instantly get to it.
        Everyone is in agreement for this, but since its farming, is
        that abuse?

        On 10/28/2011 6:45 PM, Emil Larsson wrote:
        I'd say it would be the nature of the server. A server that
        mostly attract lulzy players who don't mind/expects this kind
        of stuff? Sure. Average servers, no.

        Personally though, I wouldn't risk giving my players heart
        attacks. ;)

        On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:48 AM, msleeper
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Would running this plugin count as abuse?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVL_Xwx4LW0

            On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:08 PM, msleeper
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
            > I'm pretty sure the report tool is meant to be used for
            servers that
            > are deliberately breaking the established rules of game
            events and the
            > like. Not "I don't like the way this server is run" or
            "they do things
            > that I, personally, find annoying".
            >
            > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Jethro Seabridge
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
            >> How about servers that embrace micspam - music played
            over the mic?
            >> - Jethro
            >>
            >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Fletcher Dunn
            >> <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
            >>>
            >>> I think the best answer there is that we would
            probably use the abuse
            >>> reporting mechanism as one tool to try to measure
            what sort of impact this
            >>> sort of thing has on our community.
            >>>
            >>> - Fletch
            >>>
            >>> -----Original Message-----
            >>> From: [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            >>> [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] On
            Behalf Of bp
            >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:11 PM
            >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
            >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] About the TF2
            in-game abuse reporting
            >>> tool
            >>>
            >>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 22:31, Benedict Glover
            >>> <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> asked:
            >>> > I'm not personally going to report these but what
            about servers that
            >>> > offer over powered weapons if you pay real money?
            (Premium Servers
            >>> > (Nightteam))
            >>>
            >>> I don't think it's fair to name names in such a
            discussion, especially
            >>> when Valve can't answer lacking data on how many
            people elect to
            >>> report such servers over a fairly long period of time
            - the main
            >>> metric being looked at right now.
            >>>
            >>> --bp is not affiliated with any such server
            >>>
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