Crazed, if you can't handle the criticism, then maybe you shouldn't have
piped up.  Dude, suck it up.......deal with it......you brought some of
this upon yourself.

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Noel <[email protected]> wrote:

> " Everyone is in agreement for this, but since its farming, is that abuse?
>  "
>
> You asked, some people responded.  No drama really.  No one told you that
> you can't do as you like on your server, it just seems like it could be
> construed as 'cheating/abuse.'  Obviously [your method] is possible, so
> unless it's an oversight (possible) then maybe it's known and they don't
> care (also possible.)  If they don't care, then nothing we say matters for
> fuckall anyway.
>
> Oh wait, nothing we say matters for fuckall regardless!
>
> Other than your original question as to whether or not what you're doing
> may be abuse, it sounds like your server is up and running ok so I guess
> this thread can die.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Crazed Gunman <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> **
>> God could there have been a better way to drama bomb the mailing list? I
>> don't think I've ever seen anything elicit such responses. I was simply
>> saying, its a public server, anyone can join, we are keeping out the people
>> with the mathacks, and distributing items to everyone.
>>
>>
>> On 10/28/2011 10:39 PM, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote:
>>
>> yeah, well, its exactly why the drop system is only dependent on being
>> connected to a server, and nothing else...
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Noel <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>> *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 29 October 2011, 4:56
>> *Subject:* Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting
>> tool
>>
>> Gotta say, I don't really care what you do with your server (although
>> that approach does sound a wee-bit exploitative -- and potentially
>> lucrative considering what some of the event items seem to sell for) but I
>> got a chuckle out of "so everyone gets their fair share" when discussing a
>> means of gaming the system.
>>
>>  Also liked the "especially since other people are cheating worse" part.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Crazed Gunman <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  I have a server right now that I have several people on, running
>> viaduct_event, and what we've been doing is noclipping to the gifts and
>> handing them out to everyone evenly; my problem is that this could qualify
>> as farming, but we're doing it for everyone evenly so everyone gets their
>> fair share, especially since some people have material hacks from last year
>> already for the giftbox model and instantly get to it. Everyone is in
>> agreement for this, but since its farming, is that abuse?
>>
>> On 10/28/2011 6:45 PM, Emil Larsson wrote:
>>
>> I'd say it would be the nature of the server. A server that mostly
>> attract lulzy players who don't mind/expects this kind of stuff? Sure.
>> Average servers, no.
>>
>> Personally though, I wouldn't risk giving my players heart attacks. ;)
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:48 AM, msleeper 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>> Would running this plugin count as abuse?
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVL_Xwx4LW0
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:08 PM, msleeper <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > I'm pretty sure the report tool is meant to be used for servers that
>> > are deliberately breaking the established rules of game events and the
>> > like. Not "I don't like the way this server is run" or "they do things
>> > that I, personally, find annoying".
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Jethro Seabridge <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> How about servers that embrace micspam - music played over the mic?
>> >> - Jethro
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Fletcher Dunn
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I think the best answer there is that we would probably use the abuse
>> >>> reporting mechanism as one tool to try to measure what sort of impact
>> this
>> >>> sort of thing has on our community.
>> >>>
>> >>> - Fletch
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: [email protected]
>> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bp
>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:11 PM
>> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting
>> >>> tool
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 22:31, Benedict Glover
>> >>> <[email protected]> asked:
>> >>> > I'm not personally going to report these but what about servers that
>> >>> > offer over powered weapons if you pay real money? (Premium Servers
>> >>> > (Nightteam))
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't think it's fair to name names in such a discussion, especially
>> >>> when Valve can't answer lacking data on how many people elect to
>> >>> report such servers over a fairly long period of time - the main
>> >>> metric being looked at right now.
>> >>>
>> >>> --bp is not affiliated with any such server
>> >>>
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