I have a question:
What can us, GSPs, do to control and get information regarding what
customers are doing with our IP addresses?
On 10/28/2011 3:13 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
Just one last comment.
Engaged game server administrators who police their community,
experiment with rule changes and custom maps and modes, etc, add a
/tremendous/ amount of value to our game. We would be making a huge
mistake to alienate those guys (you guys) or stifle any experimentation.
We're hoping this tool will help to identify those servers who
maliciously make a hostile experience for players who just want to
play the game, thus doing damage to our community.
Now excuse me, I need to get back to figuring out why registered
servers sometimes aren't getting the special gift drops!
Your humble servant,
Fletch
*From:*[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason
*Sent:* Friday, October 28, 2011 11:54 AM
*To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
*Subject:* Re: [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting tool
Well, we have a set of rules and a lot of banned players who've tried
hacking us, trolling us, etc to get us back. What rules *WE* enforce
should be our business, shouldn't it? So we've got a large ban list
of trolls, dicks, hackers, etc. People often do not like us for
actually enforcing our rules....and want to "hate" on us. We have a
decent player base who support us and like that we take an active and
often hardline approach toward the "isms" (racism, sexism, ageism,
etc.) as well as toward trolls/dicks in general.
Will valve "investigate" and actually consult with the server
owner/community? Do I need to start doing demos, screenshots and
recordings of folks spewing all of the hate speech and rule breaking
just to cover my back? I ask this because compared to some other
servers, we *ARE* a little more strict than other servers. So with
this new subjective aspect, it has me wondering what's to come.
And why now? Free to play was implemented, which allows even more
anonymous trolls to make account after account (and even change their
IP as well), and now I gotta answer for banishing groups of them off
my server? This may just be the end of our servers, as I never
thought, as a server owner, I'd have to "answer" to Valve for the
server I ran when I am not violating any terms of service in doing so.
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM, E. Olsen <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That's a valid question - an abuse reporting system has been put in
place, without telling the users what consittutes abuse (which I think
would lead to many more false reports than not). Some guidelines (both
for users and server operators) might be beneficial, both to keep down
the number of nuisance reports, AND help the server operators to stay
in compliance. It's all well and good to say that Valve reserves the
right to ban servers/IP's for abuse, but without knowing what the
rules/guidelines are, it's giving operators an invisible line and
telling us "don't cross this".
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:18 PM, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
What is considered as abusive behaviour?
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